Weber - The Ruler of the Spirits

Der Herrscher der Geister (The Ruler of the Spirits) Overture
Carl Maria von Weber

Roy Goodman
The Hanover Band

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[porkyfry]

@TheCrazyCello Your and his points were ignored because they did not pertain to my original point of this being a rather dull and unimaginative thread, as are most of Weber's works which is why he is hardly programmed today.

I am correct, and I am sorry you interpret that as being unpleasant.

[TheCrazyCello]

@porkyfry Ah, I just looked at your profile and notice you are American. Well this explains your confusion between subjective opinion and objective fact. Also your unbridled arrogance and obnoxiousness, however it doesn't account for your narrow minded and somewhat 19th century taste in programming. You ignored my comments because they are entirely valid and you can't actually engage in a serious discussion on musical appreciation, merely put down others with belittling arrogant comments.

[TheCrazyCello]

@porkyfry You are not the only professional instrumentalist on Youtube, nor on this thread. I see you ignored my very valid points regarding the stylistic differences between Beethoven and Weber which make a direct comparison of the quality of each's work and contribution untenable at best, instead you just attacked someone else. Please learn some humility and lose the attitude before posting comments on my uploads again. Even if you are correct, it is no excuse for being unpleasant.

[porkyfry]

@MrConductor1984 Your points are lacking and unrelated, but I'll play along for fun.

Singable melodies in his 7th, that's a toughy... oh wait, THE ENTIRE 2ND MOVEMENT.

Fidelio Overture has two memorable climaxes, the first about half way through and the 2nd at the end.

No one invents anything in music, but merely adds their own take to what has been done before.

Yes, a professional violinist who has played every work mentioned on this thread is the ignorant one.

Do some studying. lol.

[berniewa2008]

One of the best interpretations of this ouverture, which is - in my opinion - one of the greatest works that Weber composed at all.

[TheCrazyCello]

of the late Romantic. I'm not dismissing Beethoven's enormous impact at all, but I think it's unfair for you to dismiss Weber as an echo of Beethoven. Particularly when he was writing music which was a) completely different from Beethoven's and b) completely new at the same time. Even if the quality is not as consistant, he can still be credited with being original and together with Beethoven, forging a new path in music. Especially (where Beethoven failed) in Romantic German opera.

[TheCrazyCello]

@porkyfry There's no need to be sarcastic :S

The way I see it: Beethoven and Weber inhabit different sphere. Beethoven is the humanist - his music is robust, visceral, at times brutal, concerned with the struggles and triumphs of the human spirit. Weber is delicate, ephemeral, he deals with the supernatural, with light and shade and nuance. They worked concurrently and both together had a huge influence on later composers. Just look at Weber's influence on Berlioz, Wagner, and the sound world

[porkyfry]

@TheCrazyCello You are right, 1:29 is such an incredible moment in music: oboe solo with arpeggiated string accompaniment, no one had been doing this befor- Oh, wait... Beethoven. Beethoven is the reason Weber is overshadowed, because it was Beethoven who inspired as many future composers as those who inspired him. Weber's music is nothing more than an echo to that of Beethoven's because that's exactly how he composed and is remembered.