Pat Martino - Multiple Substitutions Demonstration
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@alfbarroso A7 would resolve to D(m or maj) Em7 (dorian/locrian) is the ii of A7. Gm7 (melodic) is the ii of C7, which could be a way to resolve to D also. Bbm7 (melodic) is a way of playing the altered scale. Dbm7 would be the ii chord for Gb7. Which would lead to the parallel key to D, which is B (assuming D is major, it's interchangeable though in this context). This would be a way to explain it without all the whole-half mumbo-jumbo :) That doesn't have much tonal context to me.
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so for subs over an altered chord: down a tone and then play minor modes from roots a minor third up from last?
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@jacobe888 That's why they cal it "atered" ;-)
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the reason is that over altered chords you can play all notes. 12 of them remember? ;-)
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i don´t understand... Which scale is he using when he says "subtitute A7#5 (chord) with an Em7 line form"... what is a Em7 line form? Is he talking about some sort of Dorian mode or what?
atapoicos00 1 month ago
@atapoicos00
Pat refers to kind of 'just minor' when he talks about 'minor lines' ..dorian, harmonic, aieolian, dims as far i know & have heard on this film...
jacobe888 1 month ago
It's taken me years of thinking about Pat's system to understand that the minor-subs over a dominant chord are minor 3ds apart: over A7#5 = Em7, Gm7, Bbm7, Dbm7. I'm sure many of you know this already, and the fact that it comes from his idea of starting with a diminished chord, lowering any of its tones 1/2 step, to yield the 4 resulting dom7 chords.
Gminor7 2 months ago
@Gminor7
Yes, I thought that too. It's possible he thinks that way imho... Since Bb whole-half dimished scale contains chords A7, C7 Eb7 & F#7 and so forth A7 = Em7 C7 =Gm7 Eb7 = Bbm7 F#7 = Dm7. Allthought A7#5 is very tensioned chord which gives possibility to play very out out outly ;-)
jacobe888 2 months ago
Would somebody can say what the theoretical explanation for the Dbm over A7, besides it's TOOO WIERD? Man, it's the proto-Garzone!!
alfbarroso 2 months ago
@alfbarroso
allthough min 3rd of Dbm is minor 3rd th not major 3rd of A7#5...hmmm... i asked that from Pat himself...
jacobe888 2 months ago