Kamelot - We Three kings (instrumental cover)

The power metal band Kamelot playing an instrumental cover of We Three Kings from their live album The Expedition.

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[0Seyren0]

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[MrLatinoWarrior]

Thumbs up if you were singing along!!!!! ^_^ or at least trying too.......

[EnslaveTheEmos]

@MuffinJinReturns it makes my brain hurt, but its good shit to ponder.

[MuffinJinReturns]

I'm not sure we're gonna get much further than we've come as of this moment xD

[MuffinJinReturns]

This has been quite entertaining. The Big Bang-model of the universe is obviously not infinite, but I personally believe the big bang universe is just an event in an infinite universe/vacuum of space. We'll likely never know the real answer. And we may not be able to fantasize about something truly infinite, be we can still understand what it means, you know?

[EnslaveTheEmos]

@MuffinJinReturns considering the infinite approach, is that infinity not in itself a natural higher power. it is un replicable, un changeable, and un bound by all the rules and laws that binds all other aspects of existence. we have no choice but to accept its existence. the existence of something truly infinite is beyond our logic. thats why it cant be explained, you just keep saying it works because its infinite. its a natural force, far beyond humanity, and is the backbone of existence

[MuffinJinReturns]

So correct me if I may have gotten this wrong. You believe that the universe is infinite, but it must've taken a higher power to make it so?

Also, the energy we would use to create our own "infinite" realm, even if it was astronomically possibles, would be the use of our same eternal energy from our universe since it can't be created out of nothing, and therefore have no problem with the infinity-principle.

[EnslaveTheEmos]

and if we ever were somehow able to create our own realm of infinite existence, it would still have a source, which would be us creating it. even if we could create the matter out of thin air, the source is still us willing it into existence.

but of course we cant create something infinite, as it would not be infinite, but would have a time and point of creation.

[EnslaveTheEmos]

@MuffinJinReturns even if it is infinite, science can never replicate it. how can man or science be able to ever replicate or create something that has no beginning? that law is one we just need to accept and work around, since we can not change it. somehow, natural forces are able to overcome that law though, as the universe does indeed exist. i guess thats what i was trying to get at by "higher force". its nothing man or science could ever replicate. morgan freeman should narrate this.

[MuffinJinReturns]

LOL I guess that's what one would get by discussing over the internet xD It's like talking to a wall, thinking oneself is right... and here we both was talking about the same thing.

Well, technically speaking is energy eternal as well, since energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transform and that's the first law of thermodynamics. Therefore, my thoughts upon this lies with the belief that energy, just as the rest of the space time domain never has an ending, just as it has no beginning.

[EnslaveTheEmos]

@MuffinJinReturns thats the long way to come to an agreement. were both trying to ram different aspects of the same argument down each others throats. vacuum vs detectable energy. now the infinite argument is in perspective that i approach it thinking of the vacuum. originally i was trying to get at the point of the existence of energy and matter within that vacuum. the vacuum is eternal, the energy has a point in which it is created, and at some point the first energy came without a source

[MuffinJinReturns]

Finally, we're on the same page. By "border of the universe" you mean the point of which the very furthest photon lies. Correct me if I'm wrong. However, this would STILL mean that there is plenty of space untouched by that single photon, and it would go on forever and ever. The vaccum of space is what I'm talking about and it has - no - physical - border! At least not as far as we know.