so why do you suppose that 99% of all physicists and thermodynamics specialists happen to be non-believers? could that be a coincidence, you think? or is there some conspiracy among the scientific community to squeeze god out of the conversation? i'd love to hear your honest opinion on that one.
@jcandnp LOL! Atheism is cop out! Yeah, the Universe created it self! WHAT BULLSHIT!! Atheism bends the LAWS of Thermodynamics and physics to fit there stubborn atheistic world view! SOMETHING FROM NOTHING, THAT TAKES FAITH!!!!!
@5tonyvvvv Actually FrancIs Collins left atheism due to a frozen waterfall with three separated streams. He says so in "The Language of God". Sure the infinite regress of "what existed at the very beginning?" is problematic for atheism, but please don't pretend that the regress is any less problematic for theists! Saying that "God is eternal by nature" is a pathetic cop-out...no more logical than saying the Big Bang banged itself. We just have to investigate further, I'd say.
@jcandnp Atheists believe something came from NOTHING!! LOL! The Universe created it self with enough Time matter and energy! Then from molecules assembled them selves! Homochirality is a disaster for atheism! This is what led Frances collins to leave atheism!
Though I appreciate Smolin, and love Carrier, it's only right to correct something here. When Carrier says the black-hole generator theory was demonstrated by Smolin, he is incorrect. The theory was part of a prediction, one that was falsified by the discovery of a 2-solar-mass body in 2010, that Smolin said himself would disprove his theory. So although the fine-tuning argument might be bogus for many other reasons - it is not on the basis of Smolin's black hole argument.
so why do you suppose that 99% of all physicists and thermodynamics specialists happen to be non-believers? could that be a coincidence, you think? or is there some conspiracy among the scientific community to squeeze god out of the conversation? i'd love to hear your honest opinion on that one.
jcandnp 1 month ago
@jcandnp LOL! Atheism is cop out! Yeah, the Universe created it self! WHAT BULLSHIT!! Atheism bends the LAWS of Thermodynamics and physics to fit there stubborn atheistic world view! SOMETHING FROM NOTHING, THAT TAKES FAITH!!!!!
5tonyvvvv 1 month ago
@5tonyvvvv Actually FrancIs Collins left atheism due to a frozen waterfall with three separated streams. He says so in "The Language of God". Sure the infinite regress of "what existed at the very beginning?" is problematic for atheism, but please don't pretend that the regress is any less problematic for theists! Saying that "God is eternal by nature" is a pathetic cop-out...no more logical than saying the Big Bang banged itself. We just have to investigate further, I'd say.
jcandnp 1 month ago
@jcandnp Atheists believe something came from NOTHING!! LOL! The Universe created it self with enough Time matter and energy! Then from molecules assembled them selves! Homochirality is a disaster for atheism! This is what led Frances collins to leave atheism!
5tonyvvvv 1 month ago
Though I appreciate Smolin, and love Carrier, it's only right to correct something here. When Carrier says the black-hole generator theory was demonstrated by Smolin, he is incorrect. The theory was part of a prediction, one that was falsified by the discovery of a 2-solar-mass body in 2010, that Smolin said himself would disprove his theory. So although the fine-tuning argument might be bogus for many other reasons - it is not on the basis of Smolin's black hole argument.
jcandnp 2 months ago