Greg Koukl - Evil and suffering equal no God?

Greg Koukl of Stand to Reason answers the question, "Do evil and suffering disprove God's existence?" For more visit http://www.str.org.

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[vectormagic]

but then I could label anything "good" or label anything "evil". who sets the standard to say something is evil and other things are good? I could say it is good to kill off everyone who has red, black, or brown hair because i think they are evil. Only blond haired people are the purest and best. Is my standard sound. NO! It is horrific. So ..Where is the standard? Who can set the standard. God is perfect and He sets the standard. Not our silly labels. I hope this helps. God bless you!

[liv2ride2liv]

In addition, how are natural disasters explained? They are evil, not brought on by people, yet inflict much damage and evil.

[tjmhaida]

@laserwolf130 Your misunderstood his point. His point had nothing to do with people knowing the difference between good and evil, it had to do with the fact they couldn't say something is evil or good without an objective truth (aka God). If there is no truth, then evil and good are up to a person, in which case they are meaningless concepts.

[stregan7]

@Suiton1

Fortunately, God is the only one capable of writing such laws.

[Suiton1]

@stregan7

Of course I had to re-watch both videos to remember what I was talking about :D.

He did not say 'God' has written the law, but he could very well have meant that, and in that case it indeed does not become contradictory, but rather concomitant.

[stregan7]

@Suiton1

He is saying without the Bible, people know right and wrong because God has written the law on their heart. It's not contradictory.

[laserwolf130]

this guy really is an idiot ..he thinks without believing in a pretend father, people wouldnt know the difference between good and evil ..what a jackass ...get a brain buddy ...another really naive childlike christian trying to be intellectual ...so unenlightened ..and brainwashed ...holy shit ...

[Suiton1]

In the "Greg Koukl - What about those who've never heard?" video he says:

"There is right and wrong, the law is written in their heart. Even people who don't have the law (The Book) (The Bible) already know right or wrong ...."

Contradictory much?

[MoveMakerTV]

..The opposing standards of both jews and nazis were created from training, just like the standards of american troops and al quaida..you can also bet there were kids in the U.S. who felt the columbine kids were justified in doing what they did.. what if they believe that it was a god standard for bullied kids to strike out at bullies and a world that didnt defend them against bullies? a standard can come from any corner of any mind - God or no god - and i happen to still be a believer myself

[MoveMakerTV]

.. or you can do what most people do and cling to it and try to rationalize it against what otherwise seems like common sense. One thing people are great at is rationalizing anything they want to. That doesnt prove theres a god it proves that some people were trained one way and some were trained another.. and among all those trained, some fight to stick to what they were taught and some feel like they see the absurdity of it when they're faced with what appears to be obvious contradiction..

[MoveMakerTV]

.. all these varying standards across the world are there because of the same reason- training. NOW, what makes sense is that when your particular training starts to look faulty - like wondering why this good god who doesnt stop evil) it starts looking like this perfect God doesnt practice what He preaches. Now at that impossible moment you either start seeing your training as faulty or a total lie (in which case the god ultimately responsible for your training aint looking too credible) or

[MoveMakerTV]

.. so someone whose grown up with religious training that ultimately says that columbine was evil was trained in that way.. the fact that they're was a standard for it doesnt prove that theres a god - look how many varying and opposing standards there are in the world just within religion.. does God stand for all of them? its the training that all of these people with all these varying standards recieved that creates all the varying responses. remember some people in the world rejoiced at 911..