Hubert Dreyfus on Embodiment (I-II)

Dreyfus talks about Merleau-Ponty and Heidegger in relation to Artificial Intelligence and the Internet.

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Science & Technology

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• mental
• representation
• philosophy
• hubert
• dreyfus
• merleau-ponty
• heidegger
• artificial
• intelligence
• descartes

[13370burrito]

Mr Dreyfus's thinking is outmdoted and myopic.. he will be proven wrong as history marches forward

[0ThouArtThat0]

wrong about what, AI?

[asiguere]

as in "you need to have ontic sex"?

[asiguere]

honey, this man is the top translator of Heidegger from german to english, when you do something like that...post a comment

[psionicman]

@oc00011 there's a nice discussion about exactly that question in "in defense of lost causes" by slavoj zizek, in a chapter entitled "why heidegger took the right step but in the wrong direction in 1933". the quick version: yes, but much is salvageable. you can kind of get a sense of his opinion on it in the youtube video "Zizek - Ecology: The New Opiate of the Masses (6 of 7)" which is mostly a question from an audience member re: heidegger and then zizek's reply.

[oc00011]

@AngryMrBubbles can u please elaborate? i mean, philosophy and politics cannot be said to be unrelated. one must have influence on the other, surely..? for instance, he saw himself as a "philosopher king" as envisioned by plato, but he exercised this in his politics, being on hitler's right hand.

[oc00011]

is heidegger's politics (nazism) interwoven in his philosophy?

[mach1man22]

Ponty is not the first to say that. Husserl said that things can appear "incomplete". As Ponty said , "You can see the house better from the back". Husserl came up with that notion first as he was the founder of Phenomenology. Lol Dreyfus even gives Husserl's "incompleteness" example in his early interview with Brian Magee.

[codylawrence100]

yes, i read numerous books by him in numerous classes on existential and phenomenology. he's the top living expert and very insightful.

[EdMahoney19]

Merleau-Ponty's book "The Visible and the Invisible" is a masterpiece.

[mach1man22]

Yes. Yes. Yes. It's amazing to me that see that as far into reality that the phenomenalists and existentialists took their inquiry and came back with conclusions that people just do not understand how much closer this is to truth- validity- than psychology, biology, religion etc.

[gatkin123]

I think you've betrayed your "mood" if nothing else. I'm not a nihilist by any means...I think there's great meaning to be gained through aesthetic understanding. And I've gained more from H's notions of ready-at-hand and presence-at-hand than any other philosopher I've read (including Nietzsche).

[gatkin123]

You should download Dreyfus's lecture on Heidegger through ITunes. I think you've rushed to judgement here.