WWII Behind Closed Doors: Stalin, the Nazis and the West | Clip #3 | PBS
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this show was brilliant, I especially loved Stalin in it, thats what he would just have looked nad acted like
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Personally, I think Pilsudsky wasn`t just imperialist. Remember his regime of so-called sanation? That looked pretty Nazi! That was Pilsudsky`s regime. About imposing ideologies. I think Poland is merely a little bitch which became communist after WW2 and now it`s pro-American.
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@ErzengelRafael But is that wise using Poland? US need Poland because the old nations of NATO aren`t that easy to manipulate but Poland simply sells itself to US for illusion of protection. Protection from whom? Poles are idiots if they really think Russia wants to attack Poland.
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@ErzengelRafael You give the Americans too many credits. =) You know the history of US? People of Japanese origin were sent to special camps only because of their Asian origin - and that was in the XX c. The Blacks won against discrimination in the near past. And you know there were labor camp in US under Roosevelt. He was criticized because the camps looked very communist but his camps helped in fighting the Great Depression. Don`t idealize - USA aren`t paradise of the Earth
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The strange Polish attitudes towards Russia and Russians can sometimes be understood in light of the history. But the Poles sometimes act as teenagers who want to rebel against their parents (the parent is Russia in this case). Poles are very stubborn and it seems they don`t understand that nobody would give a fuck for them in case of a real war. Do you really think US want to start a war with Russia because of Poland? I have a great doubt about that so Poland`s provoking Russia is very stupid
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@ErzengelRafael I don`t like any stereotypes. You refer to the myth that the Russians allegely are more propagandist than others. But the fact is any political culture has a propaganda part of it. E.g., do USA have their propaganda? Of course! The States believe in their special mission of democracy and export their values which they see as a pure democracy.
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Comrade Stalin a horrendous tyrant? If it was'nt for Stalin and the brave red army, your flag would have a swastika on it. This is right wing propaganda!
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this show was great,allso was war of the century
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@ErzengelRafael "Maybe if the red army wouldn't invade Poland on 17th Sept. we would at least have a chance."
That is very true indeed. The German army at 1939 wasn't the "invincible army the crushed Europe" yet. If you study Polish strategy, which was mainly make you defenses stronger as the Germans some closer. Warsaw gathered enough defenses to last at least week. And if Warsaw fell (Germans couldnt street fight back then BTW) they would retreat to southern Poland, being supplied by Romania.
Thank you, PBS, for providing another view of WWII--one not from Hollywood.
grubelsucht 2 years ago 25
I hope a few Russians will watch this documentary as well and will try to understand why the polish nation has never seen the Red Army as liberators... Poles are being accused of lack of gratitude towards their slavic comrades, who helped them to defeat the nazis.
I just feel sorry for those polish soldiers fiighting at nearlly every front of the II WW. The 4th biggest allied military force. All for nothing since we had been betrayed by the great 3.
ErzengelRafael 2 years ago 15