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Franzjosef
Look at recent history . the Copenhagen Treaty could have been made law in all EU countries without any kind of democratic intervention .
President Obama knew that the treaty would have to be passed by the US Senate , a directly elected legislature. He also knew that the Senate would not have passed it.
There is the difference . As plain as a pikestaff . The EU is run by and for a bureaucratic elite. Their plans have been foiled for now but for how much longer?
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The Commission president is a different case. Things are developing there. Actually Barroso was the supported Commission President candidate of the EPP. The EPP was the largest party in the current elections and who became the next Commission president?
The problem is therefore not the institutional framework in the EU, its the ignorance of the voters. If they would care, parties would be far more eager in presenting a candidate.
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There is no EU President, there is a President of the EU Council, ie he is the chairman of the EU summits. The EU council has no every day business competences, hardly any legislative or executive powers and he does not even control it, he only organizes it.
Commonly the electorate has no clue in national election who is going to be the chairman of this or that institution, in a number of countries they also have no clue whom the Parliament will choose as President.
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@Franzjosefderzweite: Fine, it is not clear who will be the minister in a national democratic state.
However, in the EU, it is not clear even who will be the EU president. We are not voting for Barroso or Blair or Juncker or whatever are the names of the political dwarfs who want to become the new leaders of the continent.
You simply can't compare these things. National states are close to a perfect democracy, the EU is close to a perfect dictatorship without any influence on the top posts.
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In many democracies in the world, it is not clear at all, who the ministers will be of the next government. The Prime Ministeris normally named already before in parliamentary democracies, but there is no guarantee that the named one is really to be chosen by the party.
In Europe, the European conservatives made it very clear that they want Barroso in a second term, they managed to be strongest party in the elections and who is now the next Commission president?
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Sorry but the last time we have seen widespread unanimous everywhere, it wasn't called "democracy" but "communism".
US secretaries are parts of the package that is voted in the (direct) presidential elections, Barroso is not. Don't tell me that you don't see the difference.
By the way, the only reason why Barroso was voted unanimously so far was that people thought that his job didn't matter. If Lisbon Treaty is gonna establish the European president, the votes won't be unanimous.
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Reinfeldt is the prime minister of Sweden, chairing the rotating EU presidency for half a year, Barroso has been not only suggested unanimously by the memberstates governments but also confirmed by the directly elected European Parliament. Solana has been choosen unanimously by the national governments.
Thats as much democratic legitimation as one can commonly see in the member states themselves. An US minister hardly has much more democratic legitimation than eg Barroso.
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Wow. All these High Priests of Europe having the discourse of their meeting .. in English!
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Jose Barosso is a faggot. He should be put into prison as well as Martin Schulz and all the other N.W.O. puppets.. All of the
it's no secret that this president, whom btw i feel ashamed of, resents my country being in the EU and consults his steps with Russia, whether officially or secretly. There must be a lot of backslaping going on in Russia now. Klaus' actions are a spit to all fair-minded people in the Czech Republic.
jirikoo 2 years ago 3
get your info straight eu wanker
there was a seccond complaint to the constitutional court .klaus had nothing to do with it
personaly i hope he shoots every eu traitor and takes our country out of the fucking eu
janak19771977 2 years ago 2