No Point of Reference (Part 3)

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Uploaded by on Dec 22, 2008

http://livingrealization.org/. You are every point of reference

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  • @ajit01singh this gets me too. But dosen't the I self, the sense that I am, goes away at some poin? According to Nisagardatta, the "I AM" disappears"because it cannot take the scrutiny"....and Jesus: "I AM the way...to the Father"....indicates to me "something" must happen in order to move from "the way" to "the Father"; in other words, the I AM is vehicle to the Father...that's how I read it...

  • No, all Scott is saying is, that if you start to think of yourself as an advaitin [i.e. a believer in non-duality] then you are in no better position than any other religionist, be it Christian, Buddhist or whatever. Your belief system has simply become another part of your conception of yourself, another bulwark of the ego. Instead of being the key to dissolving the sense of personhood , the idea of non-duality is actually strengthening it!

  • I see , you are saying something like;If I get out of duality by any effort and become nondual then that will become my new problem.Yet we maintain the concept that no separation state called nonduality is love, someting fluffy? And the new concept be neither is still a problem. Where are we stuck?

  • I see no way out of duality. Why, bcause I is present that want to be out? The I (self) must be absent for non-duality. In daily existence, while seeing all form, if I judge, evaluate, experience nothing, and memorize nothing because I do not look through my past conditioning then what kind of existence will be that? Kmurti said, I am the world and the world is me, means there is no me (I-center). Tony Parson and you are saying the same. Who try to get it will not get it due to its existence

  • Great!

    I do think you're one of the most effective people talking about this non-duality topic. Before I started listening to your videos I too, unconsciously, had so many points of reference, not realizing that they were just that - points of references. Just emptiness playing. So I used to get upset and angry when people didn't agree with me, I wanted to convert them and all that nasty stuff. And even though I *thought* I was humble and spiritual, it was all just just subtle imperialism!

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