Lesson 2 - Rolls Ascending and Descending (John Bonham)

This is some of the stuff you've all been asking for, a lesson on Bonzo "triplets". Indeed there are triplets being played but there is something I feel that is very important to make you all aware of. That is --- how the triplet is played, this is key to the sound. Watch the vid and see what I mean. Thanks.

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[GrooveDrummin]

@XxStrongDrums1996xX

you are correct, exactly like my lesson...the only difference is in the bass drum. Instead of steady 8th notes it turns out to be two 16ths.

[Earthdogbonzo3]

@XxStrongDrums1996xX same pattern, but a different slant/emphasis.

[XxStrongDrums1996xX]

@Earthdogbonzo3 I think I see what you're trying to get at now, but you're writing it differently than before! Is it RLRFLF or RFLRLF?

[Earthdogbonzo3]

@XxStrongDrums1996xX R(sd) L(t) R(ft), B L(t) B, R(sd) L(t) R(ft), B L(t) B: t=rack tom, ft=floor tom, sd=snare drum and B=bass drum, check it out

[XxStrongDrums1996xX]

@Earthdogbonzo3 Maybe so, but the two ideas aren't really that different. What you are explaining isn't a very secret pattern. RFRLR played as triplets is one of my favorite licks.

[Earthdogbonzo3]

@XxStrongDrums1996xX not the same idea: apples and oranges, i think a bit more esoteric . . .

[XxStrongDrums1996xX]

@Earthdogbonzo3 I wasn't referring to the ascending/descending triplets. Check out Dan's video entitled "upbeat kick lick". That video demonstrates what you are explaining.

[Earthdogbonzo3]

@TheApostleofRock Try just incorporating it slowly with musical feeling being the main force as opposed to technique. In other words phrase it to compliment a song that you're hearing, once a technique becomes a musical expression it then assumes a whole other life from just being a 'riff' or crowd pleaser: then the technical points and facility begin to come together in a big way!

[Earthdogbonzo3]

@XxStrongDrums1996xX No, the pattern that I'm referring to is different from the ascending/descending triplets. It's a mixed sticking pattern with what ends up to be a double 'kick' which alternates with the two 'Rs': LFR LRF LFR  LRF: where the 'L' plays the snare drum, 'R' plays floor tom, and 'F' is the bass drum. The hi hat falls together on the first R, third L and fourth R. This is the basic concept; from this there are at least several major variations that I use. It can also blast.

[XxStrongDrums1996xX]

@Earthdogbonzo3 Check out his vid "Upbeat kick lick" (or at least that's what I think it's called). That was not only a popular lick amongst John Bonham, but many other drummers back in his time. I believe that Ian Paice also helped popularize that pattern.