@ShotokanBleach I guess we each get what we look for in our own training. For me, the so-called Americanized TKD works just fine. Of course, I recognize that it has its limits, just as you probably recognize that Shotokan has its limits.
At any rate, I wish you well in your continued training. Congratulations on your Shodan. Even if you can't respect my attaining that rank in my training, I do recognize and honor the level of commitment you are having to make.
@kaymbre well, i would simply bow to them and go on with my day. americanized tkd is in most karateka's eyes inferior. and i have nothing against them personally at all. i practice shotokan karate and 5th generation under gichin funakoshi himself; i will have obtained my shodan in August and will have a nidan in Ryukyu Kobudo hozon shinko kai. i dont have any videos, quite frankly i've never video taped them
@ShotokanBleach Interesting. Is it simply because they practice (Americanized) TKD which makes you feel you have the right to disrespect them personally? Would you show more or less respect to a non-practitioner? If a white belt TKD student bowed to you, would you return it? Would you bow to a 7th Dan TKD Grandmaster?
I have to tell you how much I am enjoying exploring this view of the martial arts. BTW, what style do you actually practice? What rank have you achieved? Where are your videos?
@kaymbre generally TKD practitioners generally dont bring either, granted there are a few who a decent but only because they stick to traditional TKD (which is basically a watered down version of karate with more kicking)
@ShotokanBleach OK, you've intrigued me. I'm curious what you mean by TKD practitioners not bringing what they can do to the table. Are you referring to fighting ability? Technique? What is your standard for measurement?
@kaymbre we dont care what gender you are or how old you are we respect what you can do and since most tae kwon do practioners cant bring that to the table we dont care
@ShotokanBleach Ah, so you were just trying to be mildly insulting and disrespectful.
I guess I'm a little surprised as I thought the basis of most martial arts training these days was respect for self and others, regardless of rank or school. Is it different where you train?
Heck, in our school, I don't care what kind of bo our students use, but if they aren't showing respect for their fellow students or visiting practitioners, we would have a chat about that.
@ShotokanBleach I guess each school has its own priorities. This is actually one of the school bo's that we use on stage in large auditoriums so it can be seen clearly from the last row. It sounds like yours is a purist school. I have a lot of respect for that. I recognize that sometimes the forms and ceremonies surrounding the practice can be almost as important as the actual physical techniques.
@ShotokanBleach So, just so I understand, when you originally called me an "americanized taekwondo practitioner", you were insulting me? Not only insulting me, but, in your eyes, an insult on par or worse than calling me the "c" word?
@ShotokanBleach I guess we each get what we look for in our own training. For me, the so-called Americanized TKD works just fine. Of course, I recognize that it has its limits, just as you probably recognize that Shotokan has its limits.
At any rate, I wish you well in your continued training. Congratulations on your Shodan. Even if you can't respect my attaining that rank in my training, I do recognize and honor the level of commitment you are having to make.
Respectfully.
kaymbre 7 months ago
@kaymbre well, i would simply bow to them and go on with my day. americanized tkd is in most karateka's eyes inferior. and i have nothing against them personally at all. i practice shotokan karate and 5th generation under gichin funakoshi himself; i will have obtained my shodan in August and will have a nidan in Ryukyu Kobudo hozon shinko kai. i dont have any videos, quite frankly i've never video taped them
ShotokanBleach 7 months ago
@ShotokanBleach Interesting. Is it simply because they practice (Americanized) TKD which makes you feel you have the right to disrespect them personally? Would you show more or less respect to a non-practitioner? If a white belt TKD student bowed to you, would you return it? Would you bow to a 7th Dan TKD Grandmaster?
I have to tell you how much I am enjoying exploring this view of the martial arts. BTW, what style do you actually practice? What rank have you achieved? Where are your videos?
kaymbre 7 months ago
@kaymbre generally TKD practitioners generally dont bring either, granted there are a few who a decent but only because they stick to traditional TKD (which is basically a watered down version of karate with more kicking)
ShotokanBleach 7 months ago
@ShotokanBleach OK, you've intrigued me. I'm curious what you mean by TKD practitioners not bringing what they can do to the table. Are you referring to fighting ability? Technique? What is your standard for measurement?
kaymbre 7 months ago
@kaymbre we dont care what gender you are or how old you are we respect what you can do and since most tae kwon do practioners cant bring that to the table we dont care
ShotokanBleach 7 months ago
@ShotokanBleach Ah, so you were just trying to be mildly insulting and disrespectful.
I guess I'm a little surprised as I thought the basis of most martial arts training these days was respect for self and others, regardless of rank or school. Is it different where you train?
Heck, in our school, I don't care what kind of bo our students use, but if they aren't showing respect for their fellow students or visiting practitioners, we would have a chat about that.
Good luck in your training
kaymbre 7 months ago
@ShotokanBleach I guess each school has its own priorities. This is actually one of the school bo's that we use on stage in large auditoriums so it can be seen clearly from the last row. It sounds like yours is a purist school. I have a lot of respect for that. I recognize that sometimes the forms and ceremonies surrounding the practice can be almost as important as the actual physical techniques.
kaymbre 7 months ago
@kaymbre yes but to me its not the "c" word like it is for some people
ShotokanBleach 7 months ago
@ShotokanBleach So, just so I understand, when you originally called me an "americanized taekwondo practitioner", you were insulting me? Not only insulting me, but, in your eyes, an insult on par or worse than calling me the "c" word?
kaymbre 7 months ago