The KingTiger by Lukens

The King of tanks....

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Autos & Vehicles

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• Kingtiger
• tank
• carrarmato
• king
• tiger
• konigtiger
• ww2
• Wehrmacht
• battlefield
• nazi
• german
• war
• guerra
• panzer

[haiherosner]

The King Tiger's favorite snack is the Sherman tank, for breakfast, lunch, and dinner! Achtung Panzer!

[MrBobe9]

@JohnQuincyAdams1 I don't know where in a cave in AFGHANISTHAN you live to say some ABSURD COMMENT like this.

TIGER for experts in TANK meant it was not a leap frog like t34 but a QUANTUM LEAP the tank from the future, its crew were very well selected and that accounts for its ACES scoring high.

The TOP ten german TIGER tank commanders had more than 1000 kills, TIGER FEAR was real.

Please learn more before saying ridiculous statement, i am still laughing.

[doktorbimmer]

@GeorgiaBoy1961 At 14psi of track ground pressure the tiger was no more likely to get bogged down in soft soil than an M4 Sherman or many other Allied tanks during the war, the theory that the Tiger was too heavy to support its own weight is based entirely based on speculation or myth.

The only mobility advantage that modern MBTs had that the Tiger didn't was a 1,500 hp engine and a modern automatic transmission, exactly what the Germans were working on before the war ended.

[doktorbimmer]

@GeorgiaBoy1961 The T-34 was far more prone to transmission failure than the Tigers yet no one ever seems to think that was a major flaw in its design.

Rail transport is still commonly used for Armor vehicle logistics, the U.S. Army still uses rail transport for its tanks an armored vehicles,

[doktorbimmer]

@GeorgiaBoy1961 While I agree with many of your points regarding the Tiger, you do seem to base some of your conclusions on the theory that the Tiger was too big and heavy... this simply is not true.

The Tiger was years ahead of its time in many ways, its large size, weight, firepower and heavy armour protection was more a vision of the future MBTs in service today. 60+ tons and over a 144 inches wide is comparable to NATO STANAG Main Battle tanks such as the M1, Leopard2 and Challenger2.

[MrBobe9]

@GeorgiaBoy1961 One thing after STALINGRAD germans lacked INFANTRY for operation like CITADEL, the strategic initiative was already with the soviets ZHUKOV could have accepted STALIN'S plans for a offensive but by this time STALIN was listening and he got ZHUKOV'S plan for KURSK or let the germans BLEED then counterattack with KONEV's reserves and finish the germans for good there, but the plan A didn't work so they had to wait 2 more years, next, OPERATION BAGRATION 1944 decimated the germans.

[MrBobe9]

@GeorgiaBoy1961 The soviets PLAN A was to let germans bleed then counterattack with KONEV'S reserves then finish the war over there, but ROTMISTROV 5th army tanks guard had to be deployed earlier, at PROKHOROVKA of his 800 tanks just few less than 200 survived, catastrophic losses, the TIGERS survived.

The soviets lost more than 3000 tanks at least at KURSK, they couldn't finish the germans there they suffered a TACTICAL defeat or germans outnumbered inflicted much more damage than received

[MrBobe9]

@GeorgiaBoy1961 I am in 2012, by this time all the soviet propaganda start to get water, the most recent books tell different story about PROKHOROVKA, LLOYD CLARK for example.

Facts there was just 30 TIGERS at PROKHOROVKA, they just kicked asses there, the t34 and t70 had no chance against it, in the words of t34 commander, his bullets looked like candles hitting the TIGER, there was never match between TIGER and T34.

Germans never got any STRATEGIC objective in 1942 or later, i said TACTICAL?

[MrAlsfan5]

@GeorgiaBoy1961 The Tiger and King Tiger both had the 88 that was very deadly though the King Tiger's L71 88mm was even more powerful than the Tigers, Hitler was in love with big guns on big carriers.

[MrAlsfan5]

@GeorgiaBoy1961 Indeed you are right. My mistake. don't know why I wrote that it was a 50 when it was a 75.

[GeorgiaBoy1961]

@doktorbimmer: In sum, while I agree that the German designers did the best they could in making these beheamoths as mobile as possible, they could not overcome the drawbacks presented by the extreme (for the time) size and weight of these tanks.

What I have read suggests that Allied crews feared the Jagdpanther above all others. Low profile, thick and well-sloped armor, powerful gun, and nearly impervious to allied AT guns. Many Allied tanks never saw the JP that killed them.

[GeorgiaBoy1961]

@doktorbimmer: (continued) However, both variants of the Tiger were very heavy, and consequently bogged down in soft ground quite easily. More often than not, only another Tiger could tow a struck one free. They - esp. the King Tiger - were too heavy for many bridges and too wide for narrow roads in many old European cities. Prone to transmission failures, this often necessitated rail transport to the front. Only special wide railcars could be used, again because of their size.