Daniel Hannan MEP: The devalued Prime Minister of a devalued Government

European Parliament speech of 26/03/09.

Daniel Hannan is a Conservative MEP for the South East of England and author of The Plan: Twelve Months to Renew Britain.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Plan-Twelve-Months-Renew-Britain/dp/0955979900/ref=sr...

See more at http://www.hannan.co.uk

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[isegadreamcasti]

Ron Paul for US President/ Daniel Hannan for UK Prime Minister 2012!!

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@epdavies100 UKIP should join a conservative party led by Dan Hannan. Dan Hannon should be the leader of the Conservatives.

[BasilFawlty4444]

@MrGilles1990 Thatcher HAD to increase spending on the NHS because experts told her it would collapse if she did not! Yearly 1% increases were neccesary because of the massive rates of inflation SHE brought about.

Her government actively encouraged the use of private services. They cut back on the NHS wherever they could - a prominent example being the abolition of free eye and dental check-ups in 1989.

And the NHS is not a second world system. If you think that, you are deluded.

[MrGilles1990]

@BasilFawlty4444 Your ignoring statistics, Thatcher increased spending on the NHS.

Your right the debacle with the lost 12 billion isn't acceptable, neither is a second world healthcare system in a country that shares a channel with another country that has the worlds best healthcare system under a semi-privatised system! the NHS might have improved under Labour, but at what cost? the economy.

[MrGilles1990]

@BasilFawlty4444 Why would you support Ron Paul if you don't support hannon on healthcare? they differ little.

[BasilFawlty4444]

@isegadreamcasti Oh God you must be joking.

Ron Paul, I would support.

But Daniel Hannan - after stabbing the NHS in the back on Fox News - deserves to be strung up in the street.

I think most Britons would rather have Ed Balls as Prime Minister!

[BasilFawlty4444]

@daPlumber702 (...cont)

Looking at the UK statistics, according to Treatment Abroad, in 2009, about 60,000 Britons went abroad for treatment. Of these, 43% were dental patients (generally not an NHS service), 29% was for cosmetic surgery (also not covered by the NHS), while the remaining 28% (16,400 people) was for other treatment.

Deducting things that aren't generally covered by the NHS, like fertility treatment, it is clear that most Brits favour indigenous health services.

[BasilFawlty4444]

@daPlumber702 (...continued)

When it comes to going abroad for healthcare, people are actually leaving the US for cheaper healthcare abroad. According to a survey commissioned by Your Surgery Abroad, more than 60% of Americans would consider leaving the country for healthcare.

As it goes, estimates on the number of Americans who do/will go abroad range from 50,000 to 17 million, but, as one article puts it "The US government neither knows nor wants to know the answer."

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[BasilFawlty4444]

@daPlumber702 I do hate it when Americans think they can comment with any authority on the NHS. Bureacracy in the NHS is generally a myth cooked up by the media; only 3% of the NHS budget is spent on management.

"Less and less people going into the healthcare field" - the number of doctors per 10,000 people in the UK is 23 - only 3 lower than the US. The ratio of nurses and midwives compared is 128:94 in favour of the UK.

The NHS is the largest employer in Europe!

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[daPlumber702]

@BasilFawlty4444 And no. Doctors and nurses simply carry out what actions the bureaucrats (who are normally unelected and incompetent in the field of medicine) approve. And in your country they are well under-compensated much of the time, which leads to less and less people caring to go into the health care field.

[daPlumber702]

@BasilFawlty4444 The numbers are out there for you to look up. While you're correct that people do go to other places even Americans to get experimental treatments the greatest number of those leaving one country to go to another to receive healthcare over the last 100 years is those coming from other countries to America. The number does dwindle as we move closer and closer to the bureaucratic fubar system you use.

[BasilFawlty4444]

@MrGilles1990 The French model is semi-socialised. I was praising it, even though I would still stick with the NHS.

You are just ignoring the statistics. Thatcher did leave the NHS to rot so people would buy insurance - just look at the cancer rates until Labour fixed it. For all Blair's faults, his government drastically improved the NHS.

The debacle with the lost 12 billion isn't acceptable, but preferable to doubling healthcare expenditure in an inefficient free market system.