Fall of Eagles: Lenin and Trotsky in London

Excerpt from "Absolute Beginners"; the sixth episode of the 1974 British television program Fall of Eagles.

Trotsky arrives in London and discusses the revolution with Lenin.

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[TheCharacterActor]

Things could have been a lot different if Stalin did not steel everything from Lenin and Trotsky.

[sharadowasdr]

Cool ! Patrick Stewart is lenin! :D

[marcelthemaoist]

@StimulatedMindz Lenin actually came up with NEP similar ideas were proposed by Trotsky, Zinoviev, Bukharin, etc. So is that your great homage to Trotsky? That he came up with NEP? So I guess Khrushchev, Deng, and Raul Castro are all trots right now. lol

[marcelthemaoist]

@StimulatedMindz And actually, considering that Trotsky was not even on the central committee in October he took orders from people like Lenin, Stalin, Zinoviev, etc. anyways. I think you need to try doing your research better. This is not to discount the role Trotsky played in that time period and some other things he did well, but he was hardly special. In fact he spent more time trying to discredit Lenin than working with him.

[marcelthemaoist]

@StimulatedMindz This is a myth. Stalin was a member of the Bolsheviks before Trotsky, organizing strikes, editing the paper and pulling robberies to get funds for the party when Trotsky was editing Novy Mir (Menshevik Paper) while sipping coffees in a New York Cafe. Trotsky didn't even join until 1917!

[TheCharacterActor]

@StimulatedMindz Thank you stimulatedmindz. I never claim to know far more than everyone else.

[StimulatedMindz]

@TheCharacterActor I wouldn't worry this Marcel guy has no clue what he's talking about.

[StimulatedMindz]

@marcelthemaoist Trotsky was the hero of the revolution as he organized the coup which took power in October. Stalin was a non-player. But upon accumulating power as Gensek, he gradually reduced Trotsky's role in the October Revolution, placing himself as the hero alongside Lenin. Try watching 'October: Ten Days Which Shook the World' and see how only 11 years later, Trotsky is transformed from the central organizer, to the only Bolshevik against the insurrection. What are you reading???

[StimulatedMindz]

@marcelthemaoist Ummmm Stalin's 5 year plans were a direct rip-off of the planned economy which Trotsky had been advocating since the implementation of NEP. Stalin played the role of moderate until he sufficiently isolated Trotsky, and his former triumvirate partners. With all opposition out of the way, Stalin took Trotsky's ideas of a planned economy and implemented with ruthlessness. So maybe before you tell other people to read history, you should give it a closer reading yourself.

[TheCharacterActor]

@TheCharacterActor , , , , , ,I rest my case.

[TheCharacterActor]

Sorry, let me rephrase what I said ealier. Stalin had photographs of himself altered to his means and orchestrated propaganda. I am now trying to be more precise about what I have read and what I've learned in school. Now you tell me everthing you know and I WILL LISTEN!!!.