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[Aleetheis]

Oh, and thanks for all the nice things said about my fish tank.

[Aleetheis]

Thanks so much for all the great comments. I will try and respond soon.

[enclave2k1]

"Moments" imply granularity as well. He was saying if the universe had lasted for ever it would be impossible for now to be reached, because an infinite amount of time would have to be traversed. The reason why he is wrong is because time did not exist before the universe existed. (we think) This is because time and space are fundamental parts of our universe, if there was no space, there would be no time. "Before" the universe is akin to saying south of the south pole.

[xJosebx]

it is also illogical to think that humans can, with their limited perception of the universe, comprehend the workings of the universe.

It is like trying to look at the world through the eyes of microscopic organisms, it is limited and built upon the immediate surroundings of the said organism. All of our "theories" stem from understandings that we come up with BASED on our perception of the world, which, as I have said previously, is tremendously limited.

[blackestjake]

Blablabla. Let's suppose, just for fun, that god WAS the 'first cause' of the universe, how do you make the leap to god still needs to be involved? Isn't god competent enough to make a universe that doesn't require his constant supervision? I think god WOULD be that competent and as I look around it appears he was. Buy Bull proves nothing other than the gullibility of man.

[AlmightyCheddar]

And on a psychological note, some scientists wonder if the mind continues to exist after death (Basically, heaven to us). The idea seems highly reasonable considering, there's number one, no way of proving it wrong, and number two, the mind being a non physical thing, like energy, which cannot be created or destroyed.

[AlmightyCheddar]

Also, there is a such thing as both, "nothing" and "present". They're both abstract ideas, however they do exist, just as our mind does. Nothing is exactly, 0 of anything. The present exists, but is constant, like time. You could say 3:54, or 3:54:35. Continuously breaking it down further and further forever gives us the present. Which is why, by saying the present doesn't exist, you're saying that time doesn't exist.

[AlmightyCheddar]

My view is that life, in itself, isn't meant to be complety analyzed, due to the difficulty of the task. It's impossible. I spend my time enjoying life, rather than trying to find reasons to why I'm here. We Christians live life to reach the afterlife. It's our belief. Atheists spent centuries trying to prove us wrong, and don't even know the purpose for our existence.

[recordingbean]

There is no such thing as "nothing",,,just as there is no such thing as the "present";those are words that we use to describe our day to day existence,,we are linear time beings,,spacial awareness is something that we do not master..don't believe me? try imagening an octosecond,,TIME is either very fast or very slow,,,neither extreme can we humans grasp...there is always been something in the universe whether quantum fluctuations or a singularity.only 500 characters to make a point aarrrrggggg!!

[recordingbean]

Sorry mark, you DO NOT have a theory!..YOU have a hypothesis...THEORY= A formulation of apparent relationships or underlying principles of certain OBSERVED phenomena which has been VERIFIED to some degree. Kuddos for trying to understand things .but I'm sorry to say that your understanding of theoretical physics is a bit skewd..matter only came to being after high energy condensed ,,quantum fluctuations gave rise to elementary particles bla bla bla bla z z z z z z z z z znooze bla bla bla,,

[xJosebx]

hm, that's an interesting perspective. My view was "it is pointless to try and understand" and your view is "we can use a machine to try and understand but it may or may not work".

Am I right? If I am correct, in the end we cannot be sure of anything. If we are not sure of it, it is only speculation which is, in turn, not an understanding it all. Also, technology is created based on human theory and thought so it is limited by those parameters. If we cannot conceive it, we cannot create it.

[Measapon]

That is precisely why we use technology to change our perception, thus giving us a better understanding of of the universe. We can't see everything with our own eyes but we sure can make a machine do it for us. You don't yet know what technology is capable of, so it is illogical to assume we wont be able to comprehend the universe that said, we may fail.

[lifeisfair123]

I disagree with this argument about cause and effect. This is just the law governing our universe. If there is a multi-verse, it can be just eternal.