Ralph Nader on Vermont Secession

After a lecture at the Ira Allen Chapel in Vermont, Ralph sat down for an interview and commented on the secession movement. Visit our blog http://asrblog.com

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[OgeronimonominoregO]

Oh great! So Ralph would invade Vermont and kill hundreds of thousands of people because he believes they can't secede. Nice!

That just goes to show you how all of this talk about "democracy" and "self-government" is TOTAL AND COMPLETE BULLSHIT!

"We believe in freedom and democracy and self-government and home-rule and human rights...and if you secede, we will kill every last one of you." Why? Because people chose to exercise their right to self-government!

Ralph the tyrant. Who knew?

[quillinhand]

I don't think he ever said anything remotely sounding like invading Vermont, never mind killing thousands of people.

[OgeronimonominoregO]

When I asked you if the federal gov't was bound by law, you said "stop babbling." Now what am I supposed to gather from that except that you do not believe that this institution is bound by law?

I don't want gov't to submit to my will. I want them to leave me alone.

Tell me where you find the authority in the Constitution for them to raid the Treasury in order to give trillions of dollars to privately owned banks.

Is that not lawlessness? If not, then what the hell is?

[overmind25]

Nader is wrong. Who cares about the income of the Civil War? What if the US lost against the British Empire? Should no one secede later on?

[Ameer18]

@AustinW90 republic of vermont= white seperatist nationalist state. So i wouldn't talk.

[Ameer18]

@Rickdeckard2020 if you wish to sepearte thats on u people just don't expect the other 49 states to just keel over and let u or the rest of the world to recognize u which like most other breakaway lands do not.

[Ameer18]

@OgeronimonominoregO uh this is what every country on the fucking planet who's leadership isn't stupid would do ya redneck retard! Look no further then chechnya in russia or northern ireland in the UK. They r democratic but diddn't tolerate seperatism nor should they.

[Rickdeckard2020]

Asking permission to secede is utter BS. Thats like saying you're free but you have to work for your present employer and cant quit unless he gives you permission, if you are not free to leave you might as well be a slave, plantation owners could give slaves their freedom so all they needed was for the slave owner to grant his permission, thats not freedom. This is 21st century, A state should be allowed to leave a union or federation without reprisals or shenanigans

[WeddingCrashersFull]

The Constitution DOES NOT forbid any state from seceding nor give the Feds the power to wage war if they do. The Constitution does state "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

[AustinW90]

Ralph Nader: Imperial Federal Supremacist

[ErikMartin81]

It would be deeply immoral for the federal government to force Vermont to remain in the Union, if they gain public support for secession. We all have the natural right to self-determination.

[Southernjuggalo63]

@quillinhand he said they could not seceded hence if need be he would invade to keep in the union as lincoln did

[brycejacksoncvt]

@meetman3 - while i feel your sentiment and admit a bit of irony there is a core difference. While Lincoln called the secession of the southern states illegal, war itself wasnt proclaimed till southern forces attcked federal property , in other words , they advocated for a violent removal rather then a peaceful one . VT wants to peacefully remove itself from the Union and keep good relations with the US

[Hashishin13]

@agricolae101 Its a bit trickier then that, they invaded what was a collection of Britain's territories much like they were only 20 years or so before. Back then I don't think the colonies had representation and so it was sort of like an emancipation war, I think at that point if the citizens of what would have become Canada had voted themselves out of the union, I think they would have been let go.

In the west and south against the Indians and Mexicans is another story...