@cengkarim you are purposefully missing the point of all I've been trying to say.your way is set.Your mind fixed.I truly no longer wish to have this discussion.Good luck.
@anthimos112 Again you proved you don't know anyting about Egypt, you may be educated but you are misinformed. Egypt is now in a state that is much much worse than Egypt's state in 1967. Corruption reached the core of the country. It was 30 years of israeli bribes to mobarak to destroy Egypt's infrastructure and backbone. If you think those 30 years of "No War" state is a prosperous and peaceful, then you are wrong.
Defense of a fellow arab state.Was mubarak a dictator?Yes.Is it better now that he is gone?Not if it is the instinct of intelligent egyptians such as yourself to believe there is some future reckoning with israel to be had.Egypt is and can remain a symbol of what peace can bring a country peace in that region.But that is not helped by revisionist history and talk of Israel falling.
@cengkarim I assure you while our opinions differ, I am educated and well informed.Has egypt been a perfect place for the last 30 years?No.But it HAS known a peace in that 30 years few Arab countries can match.While Iran and Iraq fought Egypt prospered.While Lebanon went through 15 years of civil war Egypt prospered.When Iran fell to bloody revolution Egypt prospered.When Yemen went though civil war Egypt prospered.When Iraq invaded Kuwait Egypt was in a position to greatly contribute to the ...
@anthimos112 I'm sure you don't know anything about Egypt cuz you keep mentioning the 30 years of peace and prosperous we lived! Those 30 years was just peace for israel but not for Egypt. Egypt was rulled by a dictator who forced Egyptians to accept this treaty so that he can gain America's support and stay in power. It was the worst 30 years in Egypt's history. We care about result, by force or negotiations, the war achieved its goal, Sinai.
there is still a larger war to be fought.Why would you wish that upon your country.it is frankly depressing.I hope you reread all this and rethink your blind patriotism.
@cengkarim It was an analogy.Please read over all you have written.Is it this important to believe you forced something from Israel rather than got it through peaceful negotiation when force failed?Is it so wrong to believe that the goal was achieved through discussion rather war that you would rather ignore numbers and facts than admit you didn't score some crusdhing victory that forced Israel to run tail between there legs from Sinai?30 years of peace and you talk as if ....
@anthimos112 And you are trying to prove false and misleading information. Good luck you too.
cengkarim 11 months ago
@cengkarim you are purposefully missing the point of all I've been trying to say.your way is set.Your mind fixed.I truly no longer wish to have this discussion.Good luck.
anthimos112 11 months ago
@anthimos112 "He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither.", Benjamin Franklin.
cengkarim 11 months ago
@anthimos112 Again you proved you don't know anyting about Egypt, you may be educated but you are misinformed. Egypt is now in a state that is much much worse than Egypt's state in 1967. Corruption reached the core of the country. It was 30 years of israeli bribes to mobarak to destroy Egypt's infrastructure and backbone. If you think those 30 years of "No War" state is a prosperous and peaceful, then you are wrong.
cengkarim 11 months ago
Defense of a fellow arab state.Was mubarak a dictator?Yes.Is it better now that he is gone?Not if it is the instinct of intelligent egyptians such as yourself to believe there is some future reckoning with israel to be had.Egypt is and can remain a symbol of what peace can bring a country peace in that region.But that is not helped by revisionist history and talk of Israel falling.
anthimos112 11 months ago
@cengkarim I assure you while our opinions differ, I am educated and well informed.Has egypt been a perfect place for the last 30 years?No.But it HAS known a peace in that 30 years few Arab countries can match.While Iran and Iraq fought Egypt prospered.While Lebanon went through 15 years of civil war Egypt prospered.When Iran fell to bloody revolution Egypt prospered.When Yemen went though civil war Egypt prospered.When Iraq invaded Kuwait Egypt was in a position to greatly contribute to the ...
anthimos112 11 months ago
@anthimos112 I'm sure you don't know anything about Egypt cuz you keep mentioning the 30 years of peace and prosperous we lived! Those 30 years was just peace for israel but not for Egypt. Egypt was rulled by a dictator who forced Egyptians to accept this treaty so that he can gain America's support and stay in power. It was the worst 30 years in Egypt's history. We care about result, by force or negotiations, the war achieved its goal, Sinai.
cengkarim 11 months ago
there is still a larger war to be fought.Why would you wish that upon your country.it is frankly depressing.I hope you reread all this and rethink your blind patriotism.
anthimos112 11 months ago
@cengkarim It was an analogy.Please read over all you have written.Is it this important to believe you forced something from Israel rather than got it through peaceful negotiation when force failed?Is it so wrong to believe that the goal was achieved through discussion rather war that you would rather ignore numbers and facts than admit you didn't score some crusdhing victory that forced Israel to run tail between there legs from Sinai?30 years of peace and you talk as if ....
anthimos112 11 months ago
@anthimos112 Who said 1973 war goals was to reach tel aviv?!! The war purpose was to return back Sinai, which is achieved, Egypt won by the end.
cengkarim 11 months ago