Birth of Objectivism - Robert Hessen on Ayn Rand (excerpt)
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@TimeWarp66 How about you just talk like everyone else without expecting everyone else to conform to Objectivist nomenclature?
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Never equate compassion and benevolence with altruism.
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@TimeWarp66 That people should be compassionate and altruistic on their own volition.
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Than what were you arguing to begin with?
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@Phatman956 Prison doesn't cure addiction. If orphanages is a superior solution to supporting the mothers, then create more orphanages. But the State will likely pay for them anyway.
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@SpazzzDog Solution for addicts who steal..... prison not paying them not to steal. Solution for women who won't support their children.... orphanages not paying them to have more children
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@Phatman956 The Objectivist alternative is to let the addict steal to feed his addiction, or to let the short sighted mother have babies she can't afford and do nothing to mitigate or lessen the impact that has on society.
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@SpazzzDog You.re making my point for me. Enabling this behavior is NOT compassion.
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@Phatman956 You can't force people to be responsible. A person needs to have the values of responsibility instilled in his value system, otherwise he'll get away with what ever he can. Are you an alcoholic? Drug addicts are driven by a drive to get their fix no matter what. They're not motivated by the same things everyone else is. There will always be short sighted women who will have children they can't afford no matter what the laws are.
I've always found overly-compassionate people as somewhat revolting. Their unrelenting officiousness is something that I can't bear.
As for your appraisal of Rand's views on compassion, I can only say that you seem to have misconstrued them. Ayn Rand didn't advocate the cessation of compassion: she merely said that compassion should not be the result of force, and that if one is to be compassionate, they should be compassionate and helpful to those who merit it, not just any miscreant.
XxxNuMbxxX0301 2 years ago 9
Compassion in its true form is self interest related. People have a sense of self esteem themeselves when they give compassion. People deep down say, "Wow look what im doing for him" Even if they dont the pleasure they get out of it is of self interest. It makes them feel good. As Xnumb said below, rand was not for "FORCED COMPASSION" or FORCED DISTRIBUTION of wealth which is in Atlas as you have read.
Bigturns33 2 years ago 2