Atheism Part3 (meetups)

This is the third installment of upcoming philosophy topics, starting with Atheism. Future topics will include consciousness and determinism, longevity, chaos theory, and human space travel.

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• elaine
• walker
• atheism
• consciousness
• determinism
• longevity
• chaos
• theory
• human
• space
• travel
• christianity
• religion

[golgoth667]

Also, being afraid to publicly admit it, or it being taboo at all, is a rather disturbing concept also. Got to say though, we have a choice in school very early on, here in Europe (Belgium). We can choosing between Christian religion or Atheist lessons, so I guess that plays in our/my approach to the subject, as in being more open minded about it.

Funny how I started watching your Axis-64 videos, and ended up in here ...

[miselaineeous]

hmm.. the fact that "Christian religion" is a choice in European schools seems weird. No public schools here are allowed to have "Christian lessons".. although they probably do get away with it in the bible belt.

Do they actually use the term "Atheist lessons"??

[golgoth667]

Actually no, we call it "cours de morale" which could be translated by "moral conduct lessons" or "morality lessons".

The lessons are/were usually based on discussing subjects such as education fundamentals, philosophy, sexuality, such things ...

Only there is a Christian approach to it, or Atheist depending on the student's choice. Now this was like 2 hours a week, mind you. Anything else taught at the school was without any such religious "influence" whatsoever.

[miselaineeous]

I see. You scared me there for a second. At first I thought you meant that there was either "christian lessons" or "morality lessons" (as if we atheists somehow need morality lessons and christians don't. :)

[golgoth667]

Christianity has such a huge role in US culture (think "atheist US President" to get an idea of what I mean).

As for remnants of belief, I find it puzzling. Once they question that sort of beliefs, I can't understand how there is a middle ground (as in not believing/accepting those doctrines, and yet at the same time still cultivate that fear of a "god" ?).

[miselaineeous]

I've met quite a few newly people who had just become atheist and they explained that the fear of god is actually a deeply rooted feeling that they have a hard time kicking, even though they know it's nonsense. I can't even imagine that! :(

[uturniaphobic]

Jesus was a great guy! he pointed out the evil money changers and even ruined them for a short time, that is really why they killed him. so there ya go, a devout Atheist with the utmost admiration for Jesus as a man. a great way to open dialog with believers...

[Edman275]

It's not that people are brainwashed, its that I believe that just as fundamental as the drives of sex, food and safety is the drive for transcendence -- whether it be through drugs, through "spirituality", through a codified religion, etc.

[golgoth667]

Sorry bout that, tried finding the right words the first time, but it came out way wrong. Was susceptible of being interpreted out of context.

Got to love the quoted psalms below by the way.

It's like that other famous religious book I once took a look at, it was amazing how scholars discussed their interpretations and understanding of some shady texts. Yet the thing meant basically whatever you wanted it to be.

Subjectivity and brainwashing.

[cymbeli]

Not to my knowledge. I live in the thick of the bible belt. Its too diverse now. You can have afterschool meetings and things of that nature.