The Philosophy of Liberty

In eight minutes, you'll understand liberty.

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[abeismain]

Why the hell would someone go against libertarianism?

Ron Paul 2012

[AroundSun]

My right to individualism doesn't impede on your right to voluntary collectivism. But your forced collectivism impedes on my right to individualism. There is no such thing as forced individiaulism. That would be to say that I am forcing you to not force me do anything.

[nolekulikali]

@neohashi Think of pragmatism: Today all territories on earth are already (semi-legit) property of someone... it wouldn't be rightous to steal these from their (at least semi-righful) owners.

[nolekulikali]

@neohashi I agree.

There is a discussion going on at the freiwilligfrei.info community board (German). My point was, the first claim of territory is illegitime, but trading with illegitime goods, "makes these goods" legit property.

Another solution for general thefts: The thief (or his insurance agency) has to fully pay an equivalent value of property - if the theft it self can be clarified.

But the "theft" of territory began like ten thousand years ago and surely cannot be clarified

[neohashi]

@nolekulikali

I asked about the implications not if it's true or accepted.

One thing I can think of is that you can't claim nature as property unless modified.

ex: nobody can claim the grand canyon as their private property by any other lawful means than by modification - spray paint it blue and it becomes the medium of your labor and therefor it is your property.

[nolekulikali]

@neohashi this view is widely accepted as true/realistic. if you buy a potatoe, you buy the farmers time, energy and talent. simply as that.

[nolekulikali]

@jkpboca But enforcing "ideals" that are supposed to have a positive outcome for all by "the right of the (deceived) majority" is the answer in your opinion?

don't fall for collectivism please... or you'll find yourself under a second adolf hitler sooner than you can cry "jew".

[neohashi]

@1:48 (Property is the product of ones time, energy and talent)

So where does material property (ownership) spring from as nobody creates matter using time, energy and talent? You can only own the manipulation not the medium. What are the implications?

[redfoxbennaton]

Oh I see, so I don't have control over peoples lives as much as I have over my life? I guess sucks for the tough guys.

[jkpboca]

anarchy is not the answer to the world's woes.

[uglyindian1]

You people who the video is saying to abolish govt clearly do not understand the simple explanation of Liberty.