Star Trek Crew watches Star Wars IV

The final frontier is far, far away.
"Curious," Picard thought, "in Star Wars, their weapons are rarely set on 'stun'."

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[you5711]

Inadequate, Jean-Luc?? Inadequate my ass!! I love Star Wars, but I love Star Trek a thousand times more, particularly Star Trek: The Next Generation! This was absolutely fantastic! Very well done, ColbyCornish!!

[KingZolem]

Since Star Treck is in the future, they would have the Star Wars movies on record.

[ShowMeYaTDs]

BEST THING IVE SEEN ALL YEAR

[saiyaniam]

"basic early design, capable of sub light travel only"

one second later.

"they are accelerating to warp 5"

[pjnlsn]

if anything, I'd just ask, Kiop, if it's not real, then what does it really mean, if anything?

[pjnlsn]

@SCIFIguy64 Yeah, exactly. Maybe for Kiop Star Trek is cold because it doesn't have enough of those magical elements he's used to (although they did have Q, but Q was understandable, which I sense is something Kiop dislikes: the phrase mystery-worshipper comes to mind), but Star Trek wasn't just about people using tech, as you said, it's about discovery, and new experiences, and bettering oneself.

...it's just not about in-your-head fantasy not real experiences (talking to you, KiopGenJin)

[SCIFIguy64]

@KiopGenJin Strange, how most of the intelligent humans' spirits are based on exploration and discovery and learning and, and doing and going to and what no man has or rarely done before.

[pjnlsn]

@KiopGenJin Fantasy, in fact, incorporates human fantasies like magic, over reality itself. Materialism is rather that which does not ignore reality, and tends to focus on nothing but reality. Nothing but the greater reality.

[pjnlsn]

@KiopGenJin Star Trek depicts a utopia, and it is simply that in this utopia, people apparently have no further need of spirituality or fantasies.

[pjnlsn]

@KiopGenJin I can understand that you find it worrisome, for you seem to have a great deal of ideological investment in your religious, divine-nature-of-things stuff, but calling it censorship is a bit much.

It may be true that you have a conception of sci-fi that is aspiritual, but I can think of many examples off the top off my head of sci-fi which fully addresses the human condition.

[pjnlsn]

@KiopGenJin Speaking of ideology, you seem to have it backwards, which might why you're seemingly offended by shows like Star Trek. More accurately, you should've said: It deals with secular humanism, ignoring everything but the nature of reality.

Fantasy tends to incorporate conceptual elements like magic. But Sci-fi tends to be materialist, in the sense that it focuses on reality itself, and technology, and it's uses.

[KiopGenJin]

@KiopGenJin The human condition is not given a fair examination if one focuses on ideologies such as utopianism scientific materialism. That's as inhuman as it gets.

We're not a bunch of robots. We are spiritual beings. And that fact that sci-fi for the most part takes this cold approach of examining it's effects on human society is what leaves me uninterested, because society and reality itself is far more complex. And sci-fi's censorship of these elements is worrisome.