@vidarjens Here's where your thinking is so disorganized. Any Central or South American country that could yield conclusive, scientifically sound evidence would stand much to gain in tourist dollars from religious pilgrimages. Any Non-LDS university or research organization who could do the same would be a prime candidate for receiving endowments and grants for further research, as well as strengthening their own degrees of credibility; thus, they would have much to gain in their endeavors.
@CounterCultureLives and those credible sources are without an agenda? i think not. the Pharisees and Sadducee s had all the answers didnt they? they were perverted to the point to kill their own Savior, Our society today would do the same in a second. The truth is not a popular thing, the prophets were never treated kindly. The people take the truth hard. People see what they want to see.
@vidarjens And these "evidences" you proclaim have been authenticated by unbiased, credible research organizations, I'm sure?? Smithsonian has authenticated them?? Or, National Geographic Society?? What Non-LDS University reviewed these "evidences"?? Or, perhaps a Central American Ministry of antioquities had validated them??
In truth, all that's happened over the past 15yrs. is that LDS Excuses, Inc. have been working overtime trying to explain away BoM's many discrepancies without success.
Now, if your theories are correct, then former LDS "prophets" from Brigham Young, to Joseph Fielding Smith, to Spencer Kimball have to be wrong. They maintained that the BoM lands were in North America, not Central America or South America. So, if FARMS, FAIRLDS, The Maxwell Institute, and modern day LDS "scholars" are correct, then LDS's past "prophets" were all wrong.
If it's "indisputable to those who have seen the evidence", then LDS should have no trouble having these "evidences" authenticated by credible, unbiased research organizations, (National Geographic Society, Smithsonian, etal.) or a Central American country's Ministry of Antiquities. Such "evidence" would be an economic bastion for the economies of those countries, and could provide a flood of new converts for LDS.
@CounterCultureLives i dont have any evidence for you, i mean, sunken cities found off the coast of peru, elephant bones found in south america, several temples and ancient cities found all over mexico and central american highlands, and south america, its indisputable to those who have seen the evidence, however for those who want to dispute these facts. go ahead, im not trying to prove anything to you. people see what they want to see.
Your hypothesis also contradicts BoM 1 Nephi 12:20, Heleman 11:20, & Mormon 1:7, as well as the teaching of LDS prophet Spencer Kimball. (The Teachings of Spencer w. Kimball, p.106) Add to those contradictions, the writings of George Q. Cannon. (Gospel Truth p.528.)
This leaves LDS scrambling to keep their "holy scriptures", which LDS CLAIMS to be "the most correct book on the face of the Earth, somewhere in the realm of "plausible".
If your thoery is true, them BoM is wrong. The "Lamanites" were NOT the PRINCIPLE ancestors of the Amerindians. Your theory also contradicts BoM 2 Nephi: 1 8,9."And behold, it is wisdom that this land should be kept as yet from the knowledge of other nations; for behold, many nations would overrun the land, that there would be no place for an inheritance." If indigenous populations already occupied the land. The land could not be left for an inhiretance.
@vidarjens Here's where your thinking is so disorganized. Any Central or South American country that could yield conclusive, scientifically sound evidence would stand much to gain in tourist dollars from religious pilgrimages. Any Non-LDS university or research organization who could do the same would be a prime candidate for receiving endowments and grants for further research, as well as strengthening their own degrees of credibility; thus, they would have much to gain in their endeavors.
CounterCultureLives 11 months ago
I clearly stated unbiased, credible research organization
CounterCultureLives 11 months ago
@CounterCultureLives and those credible sources are without an agenda? i think not. the Pharisees and Sadducee s had all the answers didnt they? they were perverted to the point to kill their own Savior, Our society today would do the same in a second. The truth is not a popular thing, the prophets were never treated kindly. The people take the truth hard. People see what they want to see.
vidarjens 11 months ago
@vidarjens And these "evidences" you proclaim have been authenticated by unbiased, credible research organizations, I'm sure?? Smithsonian has authenticated them?? Or, National Geographic Society?? What Non-LDS University reviewed these "evidences"?? Or, perhaps a Central American Ministry of antioquities had validated them??
In truth, all that's happened over the past 15yrs. is that LDS Excuses, Inc. have been working overtime trying to explain away BoM's many discrepancies without success.
CounterCultureLives 11 months ago
@CounterCultureLives Central American Evidences Pt. 2
Now, if your theories are correct, then former LDS "prophets" from Brigham Young, to Joseph Fielding Smith, to Spencer Kimball have to be wrong. They maintained that the BoM lands were in North America, not Central America or South America. So, if FARMS, FAIRLDS, The Maxwell Institute, and modern day LDS "scholars" are correct, then LDS's past "prophets" were all wrong.
CounterCultureLives 1 year ago
@vidarjens Central American Evidences, Pt. 1
If it's "indisputable to those who have seen the evidence", then LDS should have no trouble having these "evidences" authenticated by credible, unbiased research organizations, (National Geographic Society, Smithsonian, etal.) or a Central American country's Ministry of Antiquities. Such "evidence" would be an economic bastion for the economies of those countries, and could provide a flood of new converts for LDS.
CounterCultureLives 1 year ago
@CounterCultureLives i dont have any evidence for you, i mean, sunken cities found off the coast of peru, elephant bones found in south america, several temples and ancient cities found all over mexico and central american highlands, and south america, its indisputable to those who have seen the evidence, however for those who want to dispute these facts. go ahead, im not trying to prove anything to you. people see what they want to see.
vidarjens 1 year ago
@vidarjens Bring some "indisputable evidence" to the table, and we'll discuss it. Until then, your hypothetical remains contrary to the facts.
CounterCultureLives 1 year ago
Respond to this video...Theory Response Pt. 2
Your hypothesis also contradicts BoM 1 Nephi 12:20, Heleman 11:20, & Mormon 1:7, as well as the teaching of LDS prophet Spencer Kimball. (The Teachings of Spencer w. Kimball, p.106) Add to those contradictions, the writings of George Q. Cannon. (Gospel Truth p.528.)
This leaves LDS scrambling to keep their "holy scriptures", which LDS CLAIMS to be "the most correct book on the face of the Earth, somewhere in the realm of "plausible".
CounterCultureLives 1 year ago
@brettbartel Theory Response Pt, 1
If your thoery is true, them BoM is wrong. The "Lamanites" were NOT the PRINCIPLE ancestors of the Amerindians. Your theory also contradicts BoM 2 Nephi: 1 8,9."And behold, it is wisdom that this land should be kept as yet from the knowledge of other nations; for behold, many nations would overrun the land, that there would be no place for an inheritance." If indigenous populations already occupied the land. The land could not be left for an inhiretance.
CounterCultureLives 1 year ago