@WayneTheWriter Giving sight to certain types of blind people has been done, and the main issue actually tends to be depth perception being difficult at first. Is it bad just because it's "artificial"? Is my wearing glasses to correct my awful vision somehow inferior to using said awful, non-artificial vision? With which I can't properly read anything or see cars coming down the road? No, artificial has nothing to do with it. She may still be deaf, but my vision still sucks: both are corrected.
@DetoxJesus Well, to be honest, with CI, they can hear music, yes, but not like you can. They can hear it in an artificial version of a true music. Giving an artificial sights to a blind person, he would see a low res photographic version of a true beauty you can see with your own eyes. According to Dr. Harlan Lane, the person is still Deaf, no matter how hard you try to improve the hearing.
@WayneTheWriter Try taking that same argument and applying it to your sight. Sure, sunrises and colors are nice, but do you take them seriously every day? Think about it. Personally, if I had deaf children I would give them CI if only for one reason: music. I could never in good conscience deprive anyone from music.
@rschulte2000 :: shakes her head :: I don't want to debate. I'm curious is all. Each person makes their own decisions for each reason. I understand that. I'm just big on knowing and understanding people's opinions, mindsets, and so forth. I wanted to make sure i understood your wording correctly and ask another question that i was curious about. I hate assuming things. Just makes bad things happen, so I ask questions instead.
@neverjanay I want to answer your question, but I'm not interested in getting in a "debate" over this. Disadvantage? yes. Disadvantage physically. Deafness technically is a disability..it takes away one of her 5 senses. Does it cause her potential to be any less? No. But lacking one of her 5 senses does put her at a disadvantage. That means she will and currently does experience challenges due to the lack of this particular sense.
@WayneTheWriter the sad truth to that is its more of a hearing culture issue. We're hearing and its all we know is this. We never consider other options. With out my current interpreter training I'm going through, I probably would have done the same thing...then had my deaf friends mad at me later for it since my deaf friends aren't close enough for me to go advice for. We as hearing just don't know enough and aren't educated on a regular basis.
@neverjanay Precisely my thoughts. The Deaf Culture has never been an issue to the doctors and social services. Basically they indoctrinate the Deaf that they must adapt to their ideals.
@WayneTheWriter I was reading an article in the book for my class "For hearing people only" just now. (yeah i know its an article in deaf life too >.>) Anyhow, it explains how many options only come down to two....oralism or medical help to get them to hear. Never given options to help the child know and enjoy their world. Many articles they show don't help either. They make it sound horrible to be deaf. "Its the end of the world!" attitude. I do believe decisions must be informed ones first.
@rschulte2000 diff between hearing, deaf, and CI is a culture thing in Deaf culture. As hearing, we see it as helping and keeping from disabling them. Deaf see it as a whole different matter. it even goes as far as a difference of hearing, deaf, hard of hearing (HoH), and CI. CI is a big issue in deaf culture. It hits the heart of many deaf people and their pride in their culture. O_o I could go on, but youtube won't let me -_- stupid character limits....
@WayneTheWriter Giving sight to certain types of blind people has been done, and the main issue actually tends to be depth perception being difficult at first. Is it bad just because it's "artificial"? Is my wearing glasses to correct my awful vision somehow inferior to using said awful, non-artificial vision? With which I can't properly read anything or see cars coming down the road? No, artificial has nothing to do with it. She may still be deaf, but my vision still sucks: both are corrected.
DetoxJesus 1 year ago
@DetoxJesus Well, to be honest, with CI, they can hear music, yes, but not like you can. They can hear it in an artificial version of a true music. Giving an artificial sights to a blind person, he would see a low res photographic version of a true beauty you can see with your own eyes. According to Dr. Harlan Lane, the person is still Deaf, no matter how hard you try to improve the hearing.
WayneTheWriter 1 year ago
@WayneTheWriter Try taking that same argument and applying it to your sight. Sure, sunrises and colors are nice, but do you take them seriously every day? Think about it. Personally, if I had deaf children I would give them CI if only for one reason: music. I could never in good conscience deprive anyone from music.
DetoxJesus 1 year ago
@neverjanay good deal. thanks for asking and not just assuming!!! :)
rschulte2000 1 year ago
@rschulte2000 :: shakes her head :: I don't want to debate. I'm curious is all. Each person makes their own decisions for each reason. I understand that. I'm just big on knowing and understanding people's opinions, mindsets, and so forth. I wanted to make sure i understood your wording correctly and ask another question that i was curious about. I hate assuming things. Just makes bad things happen, so I ask questions instead.
neverjanay 1 year ago
@neverjanay I want to answer your question, but I'm not interested in getting in a "debate" over this. Disadvantage? yes. Disadvantage physically. Deafness technically is a disability..it takes away one of her 5 senses. Does it cause her potential to be any less? No. But lacking one of her 5 senses does put her at a disadvantage. That means she will and currently does experience challenges due to the lack of this particular sense.
rschulte2000 1 year ago
@WayneTheWriter the sad truth to that is its more of a hearing culture issue. We're hearing and its all we know is this. We never consider other options. With out my current interpreter training I'm going through, I probably would have done the same thing...then had my deaf friends mad at me later for it since my deaf friends aren't close enough for me to go advice for. We as hearing just don't know enough and aren't educated on a regular basis.
neverjanay 1 year ago
@neverjanay Precisely my thoughts. The Deaf Culture has never been an issue to the doctors and social services. Basically they indoctrinate the Deaf that they must adapt to their ideals.
WayneTheWriter 1 year ago
@WayneTheWriter I was reading an article in the book for my class "For hearing people only" just now. (yeah i know its an article in deaf life too >.>) Anyhow, it explains how many options only come down to two....oralism or medical help to get them to hear. Never given options to help the child know and enjoy their world. Many articles they show don't help either. They make it sound horrible to be deaf. "Its the end of the world!" attitude. I do believe decisions must be informed ones first.
neverjanay 1 year ago
@rschulte2000 diff between hearing, deaf, and CI is a culture thing in Deaf culture. As hearing, we see it as helping and keeping from disabling them. Deaf see it as a whole different matter. it even goes as far as a difference of hearing, deaf, hard of hearing (HoH), and CI. CI is a big issue in deaf culture. It hits the heart of many deaf people and their pride in their culture. O_o I could go on, but youtube won't let me -_- stupid character limits....
neverjanay 1 year ago