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Cirrus The-Jet First Flight

Glenn Pew covers the July 3, 2008 first flight of Cirrus Designs jet offering. The aircraft, first dubbed "The-Jet" and now known as the SJ50 Vision successfully flew for 45 min.  
 
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sksakm14 (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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Why would it be flown over weight? If, like Cirrus claims, the majority of owners will be moving up from an SR22, I really don't see any reason why a larger heavier aircraft with far more load carrying capability will be overloaded more than the aircraft that its pilots are moving up from.
datzfast (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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the number of passenger rows combined with the variation in luggage loads will led to some situations where improper loading can occur. combine this with a constant thrust vector and you see the problem. throttle down and you may go tail heavy.
sksakm14 (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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I take it you have never looked at the vectoring system in person. Next year, I would suggest you go to Sun and Fun, or better yet, Oshkosh and take a look at the system. It takes exhaust from the downward canted engine and redirects it to a level attitude such as the thrust would exit the engine on, for example, the Piper jet. The system is there to increase stability and obviously the aircraft will also have to be operated within the FAA approved center of gravity range.
nakazatoGTR (1 week ago) Show Hide
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@datzfast

but if you have a decent civilian class fly by wire, no such problems will put you to trouble.

most fighter jets are actually tail heavy.
datzfast (1 week ago) Show Hide
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@nakazatoGTR you know what i hope none ever crash im not a designer and it looks sweet. i have unfounded safety concerns with everything.
sksakm14 (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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It's a single engine aircraft. The FAA says the maximum dirty (if you're a pilot you know what that means, has no reference to the structure out front) stall is 61 kts. Or, if like Pilatus, you can demonstrate an equivalent level of safety, which lead the FAA to allow the PC-12 a 65 kt stall. It is so far the highest cetified by the FAA. Also, having seen the aircraft in person, both in the air and on the ground, I think that the takeoff attitude more than adequately shelters the engine.
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@sksakm14 dirty wheels down,
attitude for bird strick potential?
sksakm14 (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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Well, wheels and flaps down. If you look at it in person it is pretty clear that the curvature of the fuselage would make it very difficult for a bird to enter the intlet. Add higher angle of attack on takeoff and I think the probably of a bird getting sucked in is very small indeed. I know that the curve doesn't count for everything because of course the engine is sucking air in, but 1. it is a fairly small enigne 2. relatively high speed means there will be little time for the bird to enter
amilldevil107 (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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stability i guess
chestateegold (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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a big petot tube wouldnt make anything more stable, i think that mrUSAJAY was right

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