I'm an atheist, and so are you.

Richard Dawkins explains scientific principals that relate to god. It's much more intellectually respectable to say "we don't know yet" in answer to tough questions than to make up an answer like "god did it" without proper evidence to support that hypothesis. Science's inability to dis-prove something's existence doesn't improve the likelihood that it's actually real. We're all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in; some of us just take the next logical step.

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[AkumaxTamashii]

Hello agian mr. bishop8000. About your little description, not all are 'athiest' of most of the acient gods. And the next logical step isnt a denial of God. Its looking into science and acient religion. Looking to the future and the past. The acients were on to somthing with their beliefs, you cannot deny that.

[bishop8000]

@AkumaxTamashii Sure I can.

[AkumaxTamashii]

@bishop8000 if you can deny god, and science, what do you believe?

[bishop8000]

@AkumaxTamashii Why troll?

[WSGAC]

The teapot analogy misses the point. Biblical faith did not arise from ancient Hebrews sitting down and wondering where the universe came from, and thus came up with God as an answer. Biblical faith arose when the Hebrews experienced a saving God who delivered them from Egypt. It was only later that they came to believe this same God to be the creator God of the universe.

[bishop8000]

@WSGAC Just like all of the thousands of "holy" books that we have on hand, the Jewish one that you happen to believe in came from ancient superstitious men making up answers to questions that they couldn't answer.

[bishop8000]

@cwross1976 Every atheist that I've met acknowledge some degree of possibility that they're wrong. I've never heard a single atheist be unequivocally certain that there's no god.

[bersaba]

The problem of agnostic vs atheist would be so much simpler if people understood the definitions.

A/gnostic = KNOWLEDGE of existance (you either KNOW it exists/doesn't exist, making you gnostic, or you DON'T KNOW it exists/doesn't exist, making you agnostic).

A/theist = BELIEF in the existance of God (any).

So you can be an Agnostic Atheist (Which Dawkins, Hitchens, myself and pretty much all atheists are), Gnostic Atheist (never met one), Gnostic Theist, Agnostic Theist.

[Fellati0]

@bersaba Hey you can label me as what you want, but I know what I am.

[bersaba]

@Fellati0

Hey you can call yourself what you want. But I've heard a lot of theists bitch about atheists and say "they believe in nothing" or "it takes a lot of faith to believe in no gods" and so on. If we (anyone) don't understand the definitions to begin with, how can we hope to understand the difference of opinion.

[Fellati0]

@bersaba I prefer to not be labeled like I'm some fucking emo faggot, seriously why are labels so mandatory, I don't believe in god or any for that matter I'm a logical thinking scientist. Is it really necessary to label me as whatever your word for that is?

[Fellati0]

@bishop8000 Because atheists aren't retarded, unlike religious folk. We aknowledge the possibility of anything because without disproof you cannot prove something doesn't exist for a fact. Which is why we think such a strong belief in god is so ridiculous and hilarious. Why believe in something so strongly that may not exist at all? It's like.. I'm going to believe in a waffle god because a group of men wrote a book about it and I BELIEVE IT'S FUCKING REAL THEREFORE IT IS, DON'T JUDGE ME.

[bersaba]

@gogolplex74

IF you google --> atheist gnostic theist agnostic freethinker <-- then look at the first result (should be the freethinker website) there is quite a large write up of the different terms and what they mean.

[bersaba]

@gogolplex74

Of course there are gnostics! There's many people that claim to "KNOW" god exists. Of course, they're wrong, as would a gnostic theist, but the term does exist and so do gnostic theists (Never met an atheist agnostic, but I'd imagine there are a few).

You realise the A at the start of atheist and agnostic are means "without", point being it's hard to have a "without knowledge" (agnostic) title without the "knowledge" (gnostic) to begin with.

[gogolplex74]

@bersaba but there's no such a thing as "gnostic" since it doesn't make sense

everyone is an agnostic