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King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Diamond Stakes Ascot '84

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Teenoso, ridden by Lester Piggott, Sadler's Wells, Tolomeo, Time Charter, Sun Princess

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  • Cracking ride by the Maestro and a wonderful commentry by The Voice. But the real star was Teenoso. Before the race it was said he could only go on the soft. In the end he won with a little up his sleeve. Derby winner at 3 Champion at 4 in those days such a feat was a rarity as most Deby winners retired 10 minutes after the race.

  • Give the strength of the field possibly one of the best performances of all time. Lester at his best

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  • A brilliant ride by the "Long Fellow". He knew he had to expose any flaws in the 3yo's and did it from the front. And what about Sadlers Wells in 2nd? Went on to become the greatest sire horseracing has seen since World War II.

  • probably my 2nd favourite king George ever,brings back memories if a warm summer in '84,priceless!!!

  • In response to Pattire's comments, I've just noticed a bad stumble at 2.55; Lester just gathers him. I believe Teenoso was being trained for the '83 Leger, then a decision on the Arc would have followed. I also believe Geoff Wragg was forced to run him here against better judgement. I reckon Wragg would have waited for some wet weather then given him a different prep for the 84 Arc, but I think he was forced into it.

  • that was very impressive and beautifully judged by lester against an incredible line up of class horses teenoso very under rated

  • A superb ride by lester and put to bed the horse needing soft ground to be seen at his best.Sun princess was top class as was time charter and with darshaan and sadlers wells there with the enigmatic tolomeo(the youmzain of his day)in the field it was a cracking race and teenoso proved he was a great horse.Lester knew how good he was and rode a superbly confident race.Great times.

  • nope. His owners basically bottled out of it. It was in the day when horses became too valuable to race - quite ridiculous. Shareef Dancer was another one: won the 83 Irish Derby beating Teenoso, so they decided that would be the way he should be remembered. Except no-one remembers Shareef Dancer, and we all remember the magnificent Teenoso.

  • did secreto run again after the derby?

  • Thanks for pointing out the stumble. Didn't know that and never would have. Cheers!

  • But not as good as Petoski's field sheedy?

  • Great days :-) , i dont bet but wanted Rainbow Quest to win (Sagace's Arc) as at the time i was a lad at Jeremy Tree's but have always loved good horses whoever trained them.Yeah 135 in hindsight is a cracking rating , it just seems nowadays they hand out 138 , 140 to anything ,dont know how they ever justified giving Dubai Millenium such a high rating , copared to what Teenoso beat in his King George made DM's races seem like handicaps.

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