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@grownman455 I can only shake my head in wonder at your comments. Did the media make up the tragedy in the Gulf of Mexico? Because of human greed, to make profits, to drill deep to find oil for a greedy, oil addicted population, men died, fish died, the water was poisened, birds suffocated in slow, painful deaths, people lost their way of life, and it continues to this day. I can give you endless other examples. What are you trying to convince me of, dude?
@jollyjock Human beings do not cause suffering.. Yes their are disconnected humans that might want to but nobody can hurt you or your home unless you believe they can. It does not matter if you live on earth mars or etc these laws are above our planets laws. Greed comes from a person that believed in the lie of Lack or not enough. Which I promise you this beautiful planet and Universe has more than enough for everybody to have what they want. It's just this lie the media and others tell.
@grownman455 No one has the right to hurt my home. My home is this beautiful planet. It is also your home, your kid's home, and their kid's home. My home isn't outer space, not Jupiter, not the moon or Mars. As Edward Abbey said "Earth is the only home we'll ever have, the only heaven we'll ever need, if only we had the eyes to see." Yes, I could relax and imagine the earth I want to have, and yes, I'd be oblivious to the suffering that WE are causing.
@grownman455 Sometimes, despite what you have been told, pushing against works. When Pete Seeger was raising his kids along the Hudson, they couldn't swim in it, too much sewage and poison. He and a lot of other people pushed against the polluters and now you can swim in the Hudson. People pushed against slavery and now we have an African American president. Believe me, I'm all for abundance consciousness, but but greed and wastefulness is opposite of gratitude, a key component of abundance.
I remember when I had people that I worked with that were doing things I did not want them to do and I would get so upset and try talking to them. Nothing WORKED So I just started picturing me always having peace around them and them not doing those things I hate. One of them quit the other two move to different departments and the last one Visa expired and he could not get it renewed and had to go back to Canada.That is the Universe works pushing against anything will never get you anywhere
Nobody has the right to hurt your home and nobody has the right to tell anybody how to live.. It's impossible to control peoples behavior unless they are vibrating on your level or pushing against what you are saying but if they are positive about what they are doing and you are the negative one then you wont win that is not how the Universe works.. You cant beat Universal Law because the Universe is bigger than Earth. So just picture the Earth you want and relax. Watch what happens..
@jollyjock Everyone has the right to live how they want and believe how they want no matter who you are but I will promise you friend the more you push against anything the worse it will get. You have to allow it.. How is the Save the Earth protest going ? Oil spill after spill industries are not stopping because of your protest and Anti war protest you can see how that is turning out.. You have to allow my friend because i promise the more you push the worst it will get.
If you don't think we are "powerful" enough to damage this earth, I invite you to go live for a few years at Chernobyl. Or go swimming in some of that wonderful oil floating around in the Gulf of Mexico. Yum. The people of Easter Island "expanded" (i.e. wrecked their environment) so much that they couldn't live there anymore. Following anyone blindly and completely, including Ester, is dangerous and foolish. You have no right to damage this planet, our home, with your mythologies.
@wilecatrexy and yes the earth is expanding. we can see it all around. its what people refer to as global warming but its not. the earth is constantly finding balance and will continue to do so. the basis for everything is expansion because if there was no expansion we would cease to be. its what propels everything forward. desire causes expansion and if there were no desire there would be nothing. its funny to me to see how man can ever think he is powerful enough to do damage to great earth
@wilecatrexy well you are certainly entitled to your beliefs as everyone one is, but from my life exp and from information that has resonated within me from the masters that have lived, jesus buddha etc. we create the world around us by focusing on what we want and attracting it to us. that's why jesus was able to heal, he knew the god-force power within. didn't he in fact say 'the kingdom of heaven is within'? but if you're life is working for you then don't change a thing.
@grownman455 I can only shake my head in wonder at your comments. Did the media make up the tragedy in the Gulf of Mexico? Because of human greed, to make profits, to drill deep to find oil for a greedy, oil addicted population, men died, fish died, the water was poisened, birds suffocated in slow, painful deaths, people lost their way of life, and it continues to this day. I can give you endless other examples. What are you trying to convince me of, dude?
jollyjock 1 year ago
@jollyjock Human beings do not cause suffering.. Yes their are disconnected humans that might want to but nobody can hurt you or your home unless you believe they can. It does not matter if you live on earth mars or etc these laws are above our planets laws. Greed comes from a person that believed in the lie of Lack or not enough. Which I promise you this beautiful planet and Universe has more than enough for everybody to have what they want. It's just this lie the media and others tell.
grownman455 1 year ago
@grownman455 No one has the right to hurt my home. My home is this beautiful planet. It is also your home, your kid's home, and their kid's home. My home isn't outer space, not Jupiter, not the moon or Mars. As Edward Abbey said "Earth is the only home we'll ever have, the only heaven we'll ever need, if only we had the eyes to see." Yes, I could relax and imagine the earth I want to have, and yes, I'd be oblivious to the suffering that WE are causing.
jollyjock 1 year ago
@grownman455 Sometimes, despite what you have been told, pushing against works. When Pete Seeger was raising his kids along the Hudson, they couldn't swim in it, too much sewage and poison. He and a lot of other people pushed against the polluters and now you can swim in the Hudson. People pushed against slavery and now we have an African American president. Believe me, I'm all for abundance consciousness, but but greed and wastefulness is opposite of gratitude, a key component of abundance.
jollyjock 1 year ago
I remember when I had people that I worked with that were doing things I did not want them to do and I would get so upset and try talking to them. Nothing WORKED So I just started picturing me always having peace around them and them not doing those things I hate. One of them quit the other two move to different departments and the last one Visa expired and he could not get it renewed and had to go back to Canada.That is the Universe works pushing against anything will never get you anywhere
grownman455 1 year ago
Nobody has the right to hurt your home and nobody has the right to tell anybody how to live.. It's impossible to control peoples behavior unless they are vibrating on your level or pushing against what you are saying but if they are positive about what they are doing and you are the negative one then you wont win that is not how the Universe works.. You cant beat Universal Law because the Universe is bigger than Earth. So just picture the Earth you want and relax. Watch what happens..
grownman455 1 year ago
@jollyjock Everyone has the right to live how they want and believe how they want no matter who you are but I will promise you friend the more you push against anything the worse it will get. You have to allow it.. How is the Save the Earth protest going ? Oil spill after spill industries are not stopping because of your protest and Anti war protest you can see how that is turning out.. You have to allow my friend because i promise the more you push the worst it will get.
grownman455 1 year ago
If you don't think we are "powerful" enough to damage this earth, I invite you to go live for a few years at Chernobyl. Or go swimming in some of that wonderful oil floating around in the Gulf of Mexico. Yum. The people of Easter Island "expanded" (i.e. wrecked their environment) so much that they couldn't live there anymore. Following anyone blindly and completely, including Ester, is dangerous and foolish. You have no right to damage this planet, our home, with your mythologies.
jollyjock 1 year ago
@wilecatrexy and yes the earth is expanding. we can see it all around. its what people refer to as global warming but its not. the earth is constantly finding balance and will continue to do so. the basis for everything is expansion because if there was no expansion we would cease to be. its what propels everything forward. desire causes expansion and if there were no desire there would be nothing. its funny to me to see how man can ever think he is powerful enough to do damage to great earth
gregoriodavila 1 year ago
@wilecatrexy well you are certainly entitled to your beliefs as everyone one is, but from my life exp and from information that has resonated within me from the masters that have lived, jesus buddha etc. we create the world around us by focusing on what we want and attracting it to us. that's why jesus was able to heal, he knew the god-force power within. didn't he in fact say 'the kingdom of heaven is within'? but if you're life is working for you then don't change a thing.
gregoriodavila 1 year ago