What Must I Do To Be Saved? Craig vs Ally (HQ) 7/12

This is the full debate in high quality between Dr. William Lane Craig and Shabir Ally at York University in Canada from March 5, 2002.

The Debaters:

Dr. William Lane Craig is an internationally renowned Christian philosopher and apologist. He pursued his undergraduate studies at Wheaton College (B.A. 1971) and graduate studies at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School (M.A. 1974; M.A. 1975), the University of Birmingham (England) (Ph.D. 1977), and the University of Munich (Germany) (D.Theol. 1984).

Shabir Ally is president of the Islamic Information and Dawah Centre International in Toronto and is a speaker and debater of rising prominence. He is currently working towards his Ph.D. in Quranic Exegesis at the University of Toronto in Canada.

.....................................THE DEBATE......................................
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[setmedic]

they couldn't possibly both be right, both they could most certainly both be wrong.

[godlessandveryhappy]

Yawn

[DesertFoxThe]

1:24-1:35 so God loves everyone except those that He does not love.... interesting... I fail to see how that fixes the problem.

[torontoBluejays87]

Ally- "Craig can't you see that the Koran is the true spoken word of the Creator of the universe? It says so right here in the Koran, and we all know that every word of the Koran is true because it says so in the Koran". Craig- "No Ally, don't you know that the Bible is the true spoken word of the universe? It says so right here in the bible! And we know the bible is true because the bible says it is true!"...Religious peeps, stop arguing with each other, you are both ridiculous.

[rcguy69]

While these two compete to find a God that can get them into heaven, science finds more and more evidence that free will does not exist. You can not control the thoughts that pop into your head. Waking up and saying "today I will accept Jesus into my life" is not free will. It is the result of a long subconscious process beyond your control. The very same subconscious process might lead you to be an atheist. Either way it is a subconscious process not free will.

[pineapplesurprise]

@hillaryhater3 too bad we cant ask the Biblical Esau why God said Himself specifically said  that he "hated" Esau, "ha ha"

[hillaryhater3]

"if you follow muhammad god will love you"

haha. that means if you DONT follow muhammad god will NOT love you

i like how this guy denies this

[hillaryhater3]

@89xxkoLaciC no amount of good deeds can negate the sin that you have committed. No amount of charity can negate a murder or other crime. Only through blood and sacrifice can sin be forgiven. Jewish law required the sacrifice of lambs and such to satisfy God's need for blood to negate your sins. But Jesus Christ came as a metaphorical Lamb of God. He was pure; sinless. and he was sacrificed for all the sins of mankind! All you have to do is believe, live like Jesus, and you will be saved!

[89xxkoLaciC]

@49634900

if Chris can do tht, then this is no justice, he´d be someone to be ashamed as "Father"

chris is not like tht, he is a man of honour, one God´s chosen ones to lead this humanity nd show them the best way to live nd rescue themselves from fire.He cant rescue them, he can only advice nd teach them, but the rest is up to u if u wanna learn, and the final part, final judgment is Allah. dont wanna argue further, have other things to do.God bless nd have a nice evening =)

[89xxkoLaciC]

@49634900

oh come on , there is no point or lack of sense in what u jst wrote

its ridiculous

so the main point (what ur tryin to say..) is tht Jesus came for the sinners

so ppl can make sins, nd he forgive, ya i can accept tht, thts normal.

but good actions arent faith or destiny, its what U DO WITH ur OWN hands nd get the fruit of ur work.

who can make someone righteous if hes a liar , or who can make someone a liar if hes sincere nd kind??