GUESS WATT ?? MPG

2.95 INPUT watt powers ---only---12 volt power supply
6.35 INPUT watt powers 12 volt power supply AND circuit box/lamps shown in video
8.09952 watt OUTPUT electronic box power is available across 4 lit lamps.
(34.32 volts times .236 amps equals 8.09952 watts)
Electronic box ITSELF uses 3.4 watts INPUT power!!! 6.35-2.95 equals 3.4 watts

Watch this video carefully- no other hidden devices or power sources. More out than in. Please remember that 1 watt DC power is the same as 1 watt AC power. For some STRANGE reason I was unable to take a current reading off the 12 volt ""INPUT"" to this device . The device would not start up trying to measure input CURRENT using a milliamp meter ???? Thats when I bought the watt meter and begin to measure input watts and then all worked ok.
Remember with power applied to this circuit it will start by a single finger spin on the diametric ring magnet. The magnet itsef is your on-off circuit switch and somehow triggers coil power.

The magnet continues to spin a short time even when input power is removed. Circuit is energized as long as the magnet is spinning.
This fact is very important if a feedback or loop back circuit is constructed. Lots of "self runner" possibilitys.

The circuit refuses to be looped easily.
It seems like I would have to pump its power into a seperate battery or a bank of capacitors and when that is full swifly"" DISCONNECT"" and use the stored power to power the basic feed circuit.. By having two such power circuits with a super fast switching means I could alternate charging back and forth between them without bothering the basic circuit output itself. If you are gifted with electronic savy and have good test equipment here is your chance at overunity. That part of it is way over my head.
This I know for a fact: If you should touch the leads coming out of the rectifier there is enough power there to kill you. You can draw a DC spark hot enough to burn metal as I found out when alligator clips accidentally touched. BE AWARE OF THIS ALL THE TIME!


By the way the 4 lamps you see in series are NOT IMPORTANT FOR LIGHT THEY PRODUCE. The 190 DC output volts are brought down to a managable 34.32 volts/ .236 amps. That power can be picked off across all 4 LED lamps which are connected to the 190 volts. A current of 236 milliamps is read with the meter in series with the 4 lamps.


Need replication verification by others using excellent test equipment. I am using True RMS multimeters for testing and a watt meter thats accurate to point two percent. i dont have a scope.




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[tj7729]

Tom, just curious, On your milliamp meter that's in series with the lights...how does four 8ma lights add up to more than 200mA ? Or is there another load/path you haven't mentioned?

[64298]

@tj7729 Thats a good question thats been brought to my attention. I then used a cheap meter and found very different results. I also had an amp reading with the expensive true RMS meter I was using?? There is something about this circuit that needs more looking into with perhaps a good scope which I dont have. I have never found a circuit that behaves the way this one does. I do believe however that it is extremely efficient and uses a fraction of watt to operate.

[frosty956]

Sorry I should explain it more correctly: your DC meters show the average DC current and voltage. Average power is not equal to average voltage times average current, in general. Average power (energy per unit time) is the average of instantaneous current multiplied by instantaneous voltage. It is possible to have non zero average voltage and current, but zero average power! Measuring and multiplying it like you are does not tell you the power!

[64298]

@frosty956 I left this to those with more knowledge and advanced test equipment to check out. If you have replicated this you would know for sure. If you have not then all is speculation. In any event I can lay my fingers across the 12 volt DC input terminals without recieving a electrical shock.

The shock I would recieve laying fingers across the output terminals would KILL me. THE SPARK BURNS METAL!

[Yourfishman]

Im not an Electrical guy. But arn't those "Watt Meters" effected by Power Factor?

My identical Watt Meter confuses me, in that when i check the WATT draw and AMP draw when hooked up to my lap top the readings are-

21 WATTS - then swicth to volts-

120.2 VOLTS - then Amps-

0.35 AMPS.-

So 120.2 x 0.35 = 42.07 Watts So which is right? and is there a way to adjust for "Power Factor?

[64298]

@Yourfishman

I dont know how old or what kind of laptop you have. I also dont know if you are using the "exact" same watt meter I used. My advice is to take a standard 100 watt light bulb in a lamp and plug the lamp into the watt meter to see what it reads???

[PoirierMike]

You have a very efficient circuit. If the Kill a watt you a power factor of 1.0 then your power input is correct for 2.9 Watts.

if not you will need a oscilloscope to find out true RMS input. If your output is pulse width modulation of sine wave. The same thing applies you will need a scope check. If its true sine wave you can use RMS formula its accurate enough. If PWM yuo will need to account for the duty cycle. I.e. 50% duty cylce is 50% power. Hope this help.

[juniortore1]

mann, that is efficient

[64298]

@broli123 Thanks, I could not start this device while trying to take a current reading at its 12 volt input for some very strange reason. I could measure voltage and it started up fine???? So I bought the watt meter figuring I could see what the input true power was in watts and compare that to the dc output power coming out of the rectifier. I have very limited equipment so I hope others might look into this and see where and how the extra power "if any" is coming from.

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