Wilhelm Furtwängler - finale of Beethoven 9th

Wilhelm Furtwängler - Beethoven 9th Symphony

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[urikp]

O espírito da nona não combina com o do nazismo.

[neelixs]

Concordo com você totalmente. Postei mais pelo condutor, Wilhelm é perfeito.

[SugarTomAppleRoger]

@lifenavigator Hardly. Beethoven is recorded now in America as it was in Germany. In this audience, most of the people would be good people as they are today in the United States. Once we remove politics from the equation, the numbers of good and bad people are probably much the same in all countries. The difference was that there was a war on then. War brings out the worst and the best in people, whether they live in the US or Germany.

[hg21boy]

@hg21boy I am requesting a possibly educated response from you not some more crap that people pour out of their mouths today. I should rephrase my initial statement, I do not know you, so I retract my "ignorant" statement, and resubmit "you are acting ignorant". Please feel free to prove me wrong.

[hg21boy]

@hg21boy in the holocaust. Many uneducated or lazy people will claim the German army had alot to do with murder etc. Russian civilians treated the approaching German Army as heroes. They in turn assisted the best they could as they were advancing. The SS saw civilians as low, or underneath them. This is because of the Brainwash style training SS receive. Where as the Army has its training manual from way before Hitler's rise to power. No where in the manual does it say to murder civilians...

[hg21boy]

@hg21boy the nazi party. That is the main reason the SS was created, firstly to be Hitler and his political leaders body guards. Once in power, he saw the German Army was going to be very stubborn or unwilling to fulfill his poorly thought up strategies. So began organizations such as the Gestapo, SS and Ordnungspolizei. Hitler eventually got the Army to attack and invade, by making them swear allegiance to him. He knew they wouldn't break their loyalty. Though the refused any part...

[hg21boy]

@Nick83Fairfax Well....You are just plain ignorant. If you knew anything about the second world war you would have known General Erwin Rommel was well known for treating POW's fairly. Supplying them with adequate food, shelter, disease prevention and refusal to ship them into Germany for slave labor. He just like the rest of the German Army adhered to their code of honor. The SS was formed in order to carry out the orders that the Army refused to carry out. In return they were the pet's of...

[hg21boy]

@Rachegotter Pretty much any culture dominated by religion, Jews, Christians, Catholics and Muslims. Germans have been notorious for their devotion to their country before God...I guess those religious nuts can't accept that today...

[Imamummy2]

Furtwangler was in a difficult position in those times - he had a Jewish housekeeper who he protected and helped her escape to America. he was like a puppet on a string when he conducted but wow, he certainly got what was needed from an orchestra. An unusual man but one to be admired for how he handled his position during those times.

[55ENR]

@Nick83Fairfax Leo perfectamente el inglés, francés o italiano. Puedes aprender a leer castellano si quieres entenderme, o usar el traductor de google. Más rápido el traductor.

[Nick83Fairfax]

@55ENR Give it to me in English or French, amigo

[55ENR]

@Nick83Fairfax

¿Tienes idea de las consecuencias de los bombardeos aliados sobre la población civil alemana? ¿O no quieres saberlo?

¿Tienes idea de las consecuencias de las dos bombas atómicas en Hiroshima y Nagasaki? ¿O no quieres saberlo?

¿Quién es el estúpido?

Hay países que ya se han enfrentado a sus propios monstruos. Otros tienen todo el trabajo por hacer.

[Nick83Fairfax]

@Rachegotter If by "lenient" you mean "stupid", I agree!