P2 of 14 - Gangsters Paradise - Rev. Otis Moss III

For-Part-3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnTH0cTSmpQ
Trinity Church of Christ, Chicago, Il
Sermon: Gangsters Paradise
Rev. Rev. Otis Moss III
http://www.tucc.org/
March 2008 - Easter

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[oriskany]

I could not have said it better.

You have answered it.

[ronptech]

Sorry... you made the assertion and I challenged it's authenticity. I've allowed you to waste enough of my time with various distractions from that point, including your hypocritical language metaphors. You came here with an opinion cloaked as fact, thus It remains on you to demonstrate the validity of "most evangelists are essentially used car salesmen" and even that leaves you with much boundary flexibility.

[oriskany]

We can go back and forth here without achieving a damned thing, and you know it.

Instead of glomming onto my pantleg relentlessly, why don't you, in your formal and contrived usage of English, share your vision as an evangelist?

What or who put you on the pursuit of evangelism?

If you will do that I will explain fully the "used car salesman" reference.

[ronptech]

Not really, although you made the classic mistake of misusing an idiomatic expression along with assuming my focus was on liars relative to baseball. Hopefully you haven't assimilated some of the stereotypical superior society crap. There's no hierarchy at work here. Credibility is yours to establish.

Getting back to the point. I don't accept you unsubstantiated assertion that "most evangelists are essentially used car salesmen" nor your "accountance" reference if meant less than universal.

[oriskany]

Oh well, now you're making me laugh.

I remember as a student in Paris detecting the almost complete lack of satire or irony amongst the French students.

They were so absorbed in learning English that they entirely missed the "essence" of the language.

Too correct, if you will, missing the point.

You broached it with "liars" in reference to pitchers. Now you must accept the likelyhood that you protest too much at a relatively moot point.

In other words, I see you, immigrant.

[ronptech]

Yogi's developed that opinion from his societally acknowledged successful and seasoned experience in baseball. He established a credible foundation, from where he could acceptably make such statements. Yogi Berra also said that "all pitchers are liars or crybabies." Using Yogi's credibility to launch your evangelist assertions doesn't work, though it was a C+ try!

[oriskany]

Back to your assertions; let's try Yogi Berra.

90% of evangelism and/or selling used cars is physical; the other half is mental.

[ronptech]

Back to your assertions; lets try Socrates.

1a. What proof do you offer other than your anecdotal experiences that "most evangelists are essentially used car salesman?"

1b. Please describe your use of the phrase "used car salesman?"

2. What of the accountancy of the rest of the non-used car salesman universe?

[ronptech]

There certainly are progressive limits to incumbency, though you haven't on any level established a foundation of credibility to advance this discussion. The cognac association doesn't fulfill that requirement nor decrease the floor of uncertainty you've established.

[oriskany]

I'm drinking a fine cognac, what are YOU drinking?

1. Assertion-1 ("I run with the belief...") - no evidence unless I personally certify it.

2. Assertion-2 ("...accepted no more than...") - no evidence unless I personally certify it.

Incumbency is a drug, you are not in a position to ensure continued supplies.