Objectivism and Repression

Problems with some Objectivists and their approach to solving personal issues.

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• objectivism
• ayn
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• psychology
• repression
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• theory
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[justinwlaurab]

One of the reasons that I think therapy is great for Objectivists in particular is that it's really "me" focused, and Objectivists are (at least consciously) willing to accept the selfishness necessary for psychological healing. I think my therapist was surprised and happy to know that I didnt have any issue accepting the selfishness inherent in therapy, making me think that its a psychological roadblock for many people.

[XOmniverse]

I'm reading a book right now called Healing The Shame That Binds You. I'm only 2 chapters in but so far its fantastic and I think it's going to help me a lot.

[NoGodsNoGovernments]

I really enjoyed this video. Mr Molyneux has talked about this a lot and he claims to have solved this problem with "curiosity" however I have noticed a similar feeling on the FDR boards. Often times he will claim "they just disagree because they are scared of the truth!" which seems to be very similar to the objectivist repression. Just some random thoughts.

[XOmniverse]

"Stefbotism" shares this trait with Objectivism, I think.

[drew335533]

Would you consider yourself to be an objectivist?

[XOmniverse]

drew: I don't think ideological labels are healthy. They are artificially constricting on your own thinking.

I probably agree with Rand 80% of the time but I wouldn't call myself an Objectivist.

[Mementomori690069]

Getting banned for not agreeing. Sounds like the Free Domain Radio forums.

[greenghost2008]

xomniverse FTW

[wesvillager]

Talk about assumptions.

[Kbiomech]

I've wondered about stefbot for a while. I don't think he's real secure in his arrogance. Since you and I are both arrogant, that's not where my critique lies. I get the idea that maybe Stef isn't entirely convinced of his own axiomatic arguments, and is afraid to face that.

Or maybe he's just a prick. Either way, I think he does more good than harm, in an odd sort of way.

[justinwlaurab]

I can understand this video. As an Objectivist, I was pretty hesitant to enter therapy although I knew I needed it--perhaps I thought my therapist would ask me to compromise my beliefs. And though I always scrutinized my therapists ideas, I've never found a single one that contradicts Objectivism. In fact, I kind of think my therapist is pretty much an Objectivist in his thinking.

[StefanKugar]

I think like any group of people of like minds and ideas you are going to find some people that are especially dogmatic about those views, to the point of even contradicting some of them.

[StefanKugar]

Well, as an Objectivist and long-time watcher of your videos I have to say that chat room -does- sound really weird. I wouldn't hang out in such a place myself.

I've met quite a few other O'ists that reject certain portions of Rand's views on art. I myself reject much of her thought on gender roles and sex. This has yet to get me "excommunicated" among my online O'ist friends. ;)

Even Rand herself said that you shouldn't stop listening to Beethoven just because she doesn't like it.

[eagleeye1975]

First of all, that IRC guy was a repressive dick.

Secondly, I am somewhat of an objectivist... but I haven't really gotten THAT far down the rabbit hole to be all "you should only listen to this, and not listen to that" (re: music). That seems just kinda wacky to me.

I think at its core, it's a good philosophy... but it, like so many other things, is taken to really stupid extremes.