Dajjal (Anti Christ) and the NWO - Shaykh Hamza Yusuf 2/12
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@FictionsBlaster God already created the Quran LONG before He decided to reveal it to Muhammad (s.a.w.).
Don't confuse the CREATION of the Quran by God and the REVEALING of the Quran to Muhammad. These are two separate things.
In fact Q85:21 - 22 make reference to, shall we say, a divine copy. There is no evidence of an earthly tablet.
What is the oldest Quranic manuscript in existence today and how old is it?
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@TruthBroadcaster And ultimately it comes down to who you trust.
Look at the motive of the people who want to discredit the hadith. Is it because they have a desire for the truth? Or is it because they have a lifestyle that they are comfortable with and are unwilling to change because it would be too inconvenient for them?
And don't forget Q3:164 and Q63:5. These verses show the prophet (s.a.w.) had roles apart from reciting the Quran to the people.
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@TruthBroadcaster To use the fact that the hadith were not largely written down at first is no argument. A book is not stronger evidence than a strong oral tradition. A book will always need people to validate its contents.
If you find a book, no matter how old, independent of the people it came from....the question of who wrote the book will ALWAYS remain. Even if the book claims to have an author, there will be no way to know for certain if that is true without testimony.
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@TruthBroadcaster You keep claiming that the hadiths were forged and that they are a crude form of history. And I keep telling you they are not. There were always scholars of hadith in existence to ensure the integrity of hadith narrations, starting with the companions of the messenger (r.a.) themselves.
All history depends on the testimony of people. Most if not all other history don't even have the same degree of corroboration that the hadith have.
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@Factszz I suggest you read Q3:164 and Q63:5. It is clear these verses refute the position of quranists, so it would appear you all are the blind ones.
U now claim "Now even u donot know that How many time Quran emphsizes to use own reasoning & inquiry before beleiveing any thing"
So what was that nonsense earlier about me inventing "my own theories"? Apparently quranists think that they alone have a right to interpret the scripture.
You constantly contradict yourself.
@The Zanadika (Heretics) Hammad ibne Zayed, Abdul Karim ibn Abil-Awaja, Bauyyan ibn Saman & Muhammad ibne Said hv invented over 19000 hadiths in the name of Prophet. Some even pious Muslims, Shia & Khawaraj produced fake hadith many times more than even Heretics. Abbasids & Ummayads concocted coutless hadiths to support their politics & sects.Ghiyath Ibne ibrahim made intentional changes in hadith to please Caliph Al-Mahdi.
Ref: (Hadith Literature by: Dr. Professor Muhammad Zubayr Siddiqi)
FictionsBlaster 2 weeks ago 10
@-Attention-@: All honest, unbiased, un-brainwashed & eduacted Muslims of this world:
Please know that Hadiths books that Persian Imams [in fact disguised Parsi Zoroastrians] forged 300-400 years after the death of Prophet are THE BIGGEST CONSPIRACY AGAINST ISLAM. For full Proof, please search following line in Google and read the great Proof: Pls advance this truth to ur friends too.
"Some so called Hadiths that every educated Muslim on this planet must read"
FictionsBlaster 2 weeks ago 8