Uploaded by westcoastkam on Dec 14, 2011
(SEE THESE NOTES):
Long Before this discussion/debate took place, i had already informed this brother of the following (on a Couple of his FB Threads) -regarding his "120 Questions to ask a 5%er & the Members of The NOI".
I told him/them:
"...I PERSONALLY WILL NOT WASTE TIME & ENERGY DISPUTING ABOUT SOMETHING AS PETTY AS "WHICH LANGUAGE-TITLES OF LAND MASSES ARE THE OLDEST" ETC.. (however, i would be Happy to Reason/Debate over Any of the GENETIC SCIENCE aspects of The Teachings, or the PROPHETIC FULFILLMENT Aspects)"..
--Check the DATES of This (^ above ^) Comment i made to him/them.. the 1st Date was NOVEMBER 9th.. & then check the Date of my RE-POST of the SAME COMMENT.. it was DECEMBER 10th):
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=243150795739095&set=a.24314871240...
https://www.facebook.com/brotha.kam/posts/126449850803030?notif_t=like
& as we all witnessed, he decided to DISREGARD WHAT I TOLD HIM & make his Main Argument about the very type of subject that i already informed him i wouldn't waste time on.. which was: "ME PRODUCING DOCUMENTATION THAT CHRISTIANITY IS 551 YEARS OLDER THAN THE NOI LESSONS." --As though (Proving or Disproving) THAT SUBJECT would actually Show & Prove that the NOI Teachings are "NO GOOD (or Good) FOR BLACK PEOPLE".
-C'mon Son! :)
https://www.facebook.com/NebAbbaReElBey/posts/132403956872425
https://www.facebook.com/NebAbbaReElBey/posts/10150411935295686
https://www.facebook.com/NebAbbaReElBey/posts/10150418665205686?notif_t=feed_...
(NOW THE DISCUSSION / DEBATE):
Seems like i Couldn't get a Word in Edgewise here.. -& i ended up with a lightweight Migraine after sittin thru this whole thing..
-but hey, sometimes we gotta exercise that Allah-Attribute called "SABIR" = PATIENCE huh..
***I HOPE YALL CAN SIT THRU (& WATCH) THIS WHOLE THING (LIKE I HAD TO)!*** :)
(Things i didn't get a Chance to RESPOND TO during the call.. ha):
1. WHO WAS THE FIRST MAN TO BRING ISLAM TO THE BLACK EX-SLAVES OF AMERICA (Noble Drew Ali or Master Fard Muhammad)?...
At video time: 3:15 / 1:57:19 -Elijah Muhammad CLEARLY STATES that;
"He (Master Fard Muhammad) had come in and out of this country for about 20 YEARS before ever that He made Himself known TO US."
(-which means that MFM first came to America in about the year "1910".. three (3) whole years BEFORE bro. Noble Drew Ali began his teaching in 1913).
This video-interview of Elijah Muhammad was done "33 years After the COMING OF MASTER FARD MUHAMMAD in 1930", which means this was filmed in the year "1963 or '64". ---(ffwd video to time 30:12 / 1:57:19)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2037212706452459261
(Further Verification):
http://www.muhammadspeaks.com/Buzz.html
(Also note: Malcolm X was still alive at this time.. Malcolm's assassination And the publication/release of the book "Message to the Blackman" did not occur until the year 1965.)
2. CONCERNING YOUR CLAIM OF THERE BEING NO SUCH THING AS "BLACK-SKINNED PEOPLE":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3o1zvBm0lg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=W0cwD2zTAe4
(NOTE):
Keep in MIND that the SKIN (Epidermis) of a human being is ULTRA-THIN (thinnest on the eyelids at .10 mm (0.0039 in) and thickest on the palms and soles at 1.5 mm (0.059 in)..
SO, LIVE-ILLUMINATED "RED BLOOD" BEHIND A THIN "BLACK" EPIDERMIS WILL PRODUCE WHAT TYPE OF HUE?
(ex. If you have a thin Black Cloth, & you Shine a RED LIGHT through it, WHAT COLOR WILL IT LOOK LIKE ON THE SURFACE?)
WHAT COLOR DOES BLACK & RED MAKE WHEN MIXED TOGETHER?
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_color_does_red_and_black_make_when_mixed_together --- (Answer): "MAROON"!!!.. (Ouch..lol)
-& Aren't "MOORS" also Known as "MAROONS"? (don't they go by Both Titles?) :) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YVWDWvWVdI
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/moor-than-words/2011/04/20/dianetics-deathnology...
-& What does MAROON look like when you keep adding more & more amounts of Black to it ?
(note):
Black & Red are the Two PRIME ORIGINAL UNIVERSAL COLORS.. Black = Space, Red = Atom/Sun)
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@BlkPower4BlkCowards Brother man, there is nothing fake about me. Cut it out!
LORDABBA9 2 months ago
@LORDABBA9 You would rather be a fake scholar? For the record, you have admitted that you made up the name "St. Garvey Bey" and now you are admitting that you are a fake scholar. Isn't a fake scholar the same thing as a pseudo scholar?
BlkPower4BlkCowards 2 months ago
@BlkPower4BlkCowards Who ever said Garvey was in the M.S.T. of A??? I never said he used that name. It is something that I personally came up and that is what I am telling. I would rather be a fake scholar than a fake person. Black people dont exist.
LORDABBA9 2 months ago
@LORDABBA9 If you admit "That is a name I came up with," how can you then say you don't remix history? Do you have any proof Marcus Garvey was in the MSTA? Do you have any proof that Marcus Garvey used the surname Bey? Do you have any evidence to prove Marcus Garvey accepted the name St. Garvey Bey? If you do not, wouldn't that sort of make you a pseudo scholar? Peace
BlkPower4BlkCowards 2 months ago
kam makes some good points but im finding some errors....and it seem like more of a damn argument though...let the man speak brotha kam jeez
Invinciblearmor1986 2 months ago
@HOGGBEATZ Show and prove or simply be quiet. All of the extra stuff is wack! Can you show and prove yes or no?
nyenem 2 months ago
@nyenem I see your a man of many themes... Using different Youtube accounts only makes things seem a bit shady but to each his own. For your info bro, I never answered any questions for any one. I only gave my OPINION about the discussion. This is my final post! the reason why people ends debates with you is because words go in your ear one way, and come another thus missing the details of the debate/discussion.
HOGGBEATZ 2 months ago
the Brother Abba was using the example of money, to explain that a rich slave=so call clean slave,
and a dirty slave=so call poor slave are still both slaves.....
mack3dg 2 months ago
@HOGGBEATZ So this is what you do, you answer the questions that Kam admitted he could not answer. This is Lord Abba.
nyenem 2 months ago
abbas a real nigga
ghostilox 2 months ago