Who is the true Jesus? ( Shabir's Opening Statement - 2 of 4 )

Is Jesus Christ God or just a prophet?

What does the Bible say about the identity of Jesus Christ?

Why is the question over Jesus' true identity so important?

The Islamic view of Jesus lies between two extremes. The Jews, who rejected Jesus as a Prophet of God, called him an impostor.

The Christians, on the other hand, considered him to be the son of God and worship him as such.

Islam considers Jesus to be one of the great prophets of God and respects him as much as Ibrahim (Abraham), Moses, and Mohammed.

"Christianity and Islam."
Shabir ally vs. William Lane Craig

A truly remarkable series of four debates held at four Canadian universities on four different questions.

Tape 4: "Who is the true Jesus?: The Jesus of the Bible or the Jesus of the Qur'an?"

Craig argues on the basis of standard criteria of authenticity that the historical Jesus had a divine self-understanding, while Ally maintains that personal claims to divinity are inauthentic.

Representing the Muslim perspective was Shabir Ally: Shabir Ally has earned a B.A. in Religious Studies from Laurentian University in Sudbury, Ontario, with a specialization in Biblical Literature, and an M.A. in Religious Studies from the University of Toronto with a specialization in Quranic Exegesis.

He is now in his fourth year of Ph.D studies in Quranic Exegesis at the University of Toronto.

He is the president of the Islamic Information & Dawah Centre International in Toronto where he functions as Imam.

He travels internationally to represent Islam in public lectures and interfaith dialogues.

He explains Islam on a weekly television program called "Let the Quran Speak.

He's the author of the book " Is Jesus God? The Bible Says No ! "

Representing the Muslim perspective was Shabir ally: Shabir Ally holds a B.A. in Religious Studies from Laurentian University in Sudbury, Ontario, with a specialization in Biblical Literature, and an M.A. in Religious Studies from the University of Toronto with a specialization in Quranic Exegesis. He is now in his third year of PhD studies in Quranic Exegesis at the University of Toronto. Shabir is the founder of the Islamic Information and Da'wah Centre in Toronto, Canada.

Representing the Christian side was Dr. William Lane Craig: Dr. William is Research Professor of Philosophy at Talbot School of Theology in La Mirada, California.

He lives in Atlanta, Georgia, with his wife Jan and their two teenage children Charity and John.

At the age of sixteen as a junior in high school, he first heard the message of the Christian gospel and yielded his life to Christ.

Dr. Craig pursued his undergraduate studies at Wheaton College (B.A. 1971) and graduate studies at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School (M.A. 1974; M.A. 1975), the University of Birmingham (England) (Ph.D. 1977), and the University of Munich (Germany) (D.Theol. 1984).

The Topic of Debate: Who is the true Jesus ? The Jesus of the Bible or the Jesus of the Qur'an?

Shabir Ally (www.Shabirally.com)

vs.

Dr. Willam Lane Craig

(www.leaderu.com/offices/billcraig/)


(University of Western Ontario,Canada 2002)

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[hephzibah141]

it even says in the bible in zechariah 2:10 " shout and be glad o daughters of zion. For I am coming and will live among you, declares the lord". This is God saying he is going to come down in human form and dwell among us humans. A.K.A Jesus!

[asus3571]

@GodzLove1 just conversing here but it is fact that some of the bible was not literal but stories as people back then needed a way to understand things so stories were used as a means of explaining thingsedit tw i believe in god w/ all my herat

[asus3571]

@GodzLove1 just conversing here but it is fact that some of the bible was not literal but stories as people back then needed a way to understand things so stories were used as a means of explaining things

[GodzLove1]

So are you muslims saying that you only believe parts of the bible to be true??

What if someone only believed parts of the Quaron or what if someone only believed part of what God says? Oh my....that's not good my friends!! It's all or nothing.

[GodzLove1]

Jesus not only showed himself once...but many days he spent teaching after his ressurection. He even showed Thomas his hands where he was nailed to the cross. An angel appeared to the woman and spoke to them at his tomb that Christ is no longer here but has risen from the grave!  Also the book of Matthew says that when Christ rose from the dead, many of the tombs of the saints opened up and many rose up from the dead and walked about the town showing this miracle.

[GodzLove1]

Show me the scriptures where Christs disciples denyed him as a true prophet at the time of crucifixion.

[GodzLove1]

Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[a] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." ---Matthew 28:18-20 Now see, you cant just pick and choose what parts of the Quran or Bible you want to believe! Its all or nothing!

[GodzLove1]

I disagree with the part that says Jesus's disciples could not believe in him because he was crucified as a blastphemer. No, only peter denied knowing Christ because he was in fear of his life and was afraid that if he told he was a follower,,he would also be killed. No where in the bible does it say that Christs disciples did not believe in him until his ressurection!