@thetornado99 then why didnt muhammad actually do as god wished ? instead of stealing ,,, murdering ,,, taking slaves ,,, and as al tabari says 6 :111 i have lied and inputted words god has not said ,,, no muihammad was not from the same god as jesus and he didnt even get the biblical characters right .. he said chists mother was marium ,,, thats arrons sister ,, mary was christs mother not the same people not even related ,, and theres more that muhammad got wrong from the bible
@thetornado99 read it carefully ,,, abraham fell ,,, he was not ordered ,,, he was not forced ,,, this was not an order from god ,,, READ IT ! ,,,DO IT READ IT AND FINALLY RELISE THIS IS NOT AN ORDER FROM GOD !!!!! THIS WAS ABRAHAMS REACTION TO BEING WITH GOD !
@thetornado99 better yet give ne the verse that says that any one fell in prayer during the forty days or when christ teaches the people how to pray show me the verse thats says he told them to fall in prosteration.. just give the verse that says this , other wise you are only speculating with out proof, just give the verse//// he says to go alone , he says to uncover your head , he says what words to say , he says women cover their heads when worshipping ,, but it does not say to fall
@lesterclaypool1 Run yourself through this intellectual exercise: 1) look up the definition of prostration 2) visualize the action 3) go read the biblical verses I quoted 4) visualize the actions mentioned in those verses 5) realize that you didn't understand what falling prostrate meant. (PS - Falling to your face in prayer requires falling to your knees as a biomechanical prerequisite. Logic, son. Logic.)
@thetornado99 actually you didnt read what you said ,,, the verses dont say he fell to his knees ,, and the verses on the 40 days dont mention it either your not telling the truth or dont know the truth i suggest you look it up and read the verses
@lesterclaypool1 I gave you even better: passages demonstrating that Christ fell to his knees WHILE praying and that prophets before him did so. You chose the most extreme example of a reason for someone to be excused from falling prostrate during prayer. Even the elderly not in wheelchairs can be exempt, as long as their intention to go through the motions of prostrating to God is present. If you think you're on a level with God and don't care to bow down to Him, that's your problem, not mine.
@thetornado99 YOU DONT UNDER STAND DO YOU ? NO YOU DONT ,,,and im sure you wont but thats ok ,,, you cant help it ,,, i suppose peole in wheel chairs cant pray ? because they cant fall to their knees ? ,,,, and you still havent given the orders from christ to fall to your knee when praying ,,, and the 40 days has nothing to do with this subject ,,, you need to read more simple as that !
@lesterclaypool1 When you pray, you worship. It's that simple. There's a reason why prayers/worship is directed to God alone, otherwise it would be idolatry. What do you think prophets do during their 40 day struggle/fast? When they prays, they are by definition worshiping God. When he falls prostrate to pray/worship, he is submitting himself to God. How you fail to see this is beyond me, so the failure, unfortunately, is yours.
@lesterclaypool1 u said before that the prophet postrated and bowed to an idol, that alone proves that u have never read the Quran ! u made alot of false claims about the Quran which all leads to one fact : Never read it ... Go read
@thetornado99 then why didnt muhammad actually do as god wished ? instead of stealing ,,, murdering ,,, taking slaves ,,, and as al tabari says 6 :111 i have lied and inputted words god has not said ,,, no muihammad was not from the same god as jesus and he didnt even get the biblical characters right .. he said chists mother was marium ,,, thats arrons sister ,, mary was christs mother not the same people not even related ,, and theres more that muhammad got wrong from the bible
lesterclaypool1 3 months ago
@thetornado99 read it carefully ,,, abraham fell ,,, he was not ordered ,,, he was not forced ,,, this was not an order from god ,,, READ IT ! ,,,DO IT READ IT AND FINALLY RELISE THIS IS NOT AN ORDER FROM GOD !!!!! THIS WAS ABRAHAMS REACTION TO BEING WITH GOD !
lesterclaypool1 3 months ago
@thetornado99 better yet give ne the verse that says that any one fell in prayer during the forty days or when christ teaches the people how to pray show me the verse thats says he told them to fall in prosteration.. just give the verse that says this , other wise you are only speculating with out proof, just give the verse//// he says to go alone , he says to uncover your head , he says what words to say , he says women cover their heads when worshipping ,, but it does not say to fall
lesterclaypool1 3 months ago
@lesterclaypool1 Run yourself through this intellectual exercise: 1) look up the definition of prostration 2) visualize the action 3) go read the biblical verses I quoted 4) visualize the actions mentioned in those verses 5) realize that you didn't understand what falling prostrate meant. (PS - Falling to your face in prayer requires falling to your knees as a biomechanical prerequisite. Logic, son. Logic.)
thetornado99 3 months ago
@thetornado99 actually you didnt read what you said ,,, the verses dont say he fell to his knees ,, and the verses on the 40 days dont mention it either your not telling the truth or dont know the truth i suggest you look it up and read the verses
lesterclaypool1 3 months ago
@lesterclaypool1 I gave you even better: passages demonstrating that Christ fell to his knees WHILE praying and that prophets before him did so. You chose the most extreme example of a reason for someone to be excused from falling prostrate during prayer. Even the elderly not in wheelchairs can be exempt, as long as their intention to go through the motions of prostrating to God is present. If you think you're on a level with God and don't care to bow down to Him, that's your problem, not mine.
thetornado99 3 months ago
@thetornado99 YOU DONT UNDER STAND DO YOU ? NO YOU DONT ,,,and im sure you wont but thats ok ,,, you cant help it ,,, i suppose peole in wheel chairs cant pray ? because they cant fall to their knees ? ,,,, and you still havent given the orders from christ to fall to your knee when praying ,,, and the 40 days has nothing to do with this subject ,,, you need to read more simple as that !
lesterclaypool1 3 months ago
@lesterclaypool1 When you pray, you worship. It's that simple. There's a reason why prayers/worship is directed to God alone, otherwise it would be idolatry. What do you think prophets do during their 40 day struggle/fast? When they prays, they are by definition worshiping God. When he falls prostrate to pray/worship, he is submitting himself to God. How you fail to see this is beyond me, so the failure, unfortunately, is yours.
thetornado99 4 months ago
@lesterclaypool1 u said before that the prophet postrated and bowed to an idol, that alone proves that u have never read the Quran ! u made alot of false claims about the Quran which all leads to one fact : Never read it ... Go read
QuranNet 4 months ago