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Wall Street Nov. 17th. Street demonstrations to mark the two month anniversary of the movement.

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[nowthatsinteresting1]

@mredstriumph I'm fine - I'm in the west. Ask anyone in a chinese factory, or anyone living in the middle east. It may sound odd in these selfish times, but I'm arguing for a better deal for other people, not myself! I'm none of the things you mention. I run a recruitment agency. And the type of operations you're talking about is the type of thing I'm furious about!

[mredstriumph]

@nowthatsinteresting1

By the way, if u are a paid organizer for the govt, employing several ppl w a solyndra type scheme, receiving $ from a hedge fund trader in order to sponsor a communist front group (soros), or are running on some kind of paid govt grant, I'll grant u the title salesman, but u are not an entrepreneur.

[mredstriumph]

@nowthatsinteresting1

Here's the moral framework. It's simply this..

u do not have a right to INITIATE the use of force + none have right to take life, liberty, or property lawfully produced (or voluntarily procured from) from its producer

U scapegoat "the very rich", yet they've done NOTHING 2u - proven in that u have no STANDING 2bring case vs them in a lawful court, whereas I recognize that Robespierre, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot are motived by the POWER OWS seeks,not $

[nowthatsinteresting1]

@mredstriumph Not everyone or everything has a right to exist - there has to be a moral framework. No-one would want an organisation to exist that caused pain and misery to millions of people, even if millions more gained on the deal. All the positive things you mention can exist - but more control is needed of the very rich (whether corporation or person) to ensure they don't abuse their power. By the way, I am a salesman and entrepreneur, and I employ several people. I am not an opt-out.

[mredstriumph]

@nowthatsinteresting1

Who are U to "allow anyone to exist".

"F'ing Capitalists" have a RIGHT to exist on the grounds that they would STILL exist (& probably benefit - as would the rest of us) even if u were never born,

Their ability to prosper long after you're gone is more than proven by your lifelong boycott of contribution & benefit to the economic well being of every1 else.

The capitalists that u hate pay taxes, create jobs, ideas, &goods. What do YOU do 4 humanity?

[nowthatsinteresting1]

@GunsNRosesbitches Your description is of a 'share-owning democracy'. However, now we see the shares increasingly being owned by fewer and fewer people - and many companies that were originally on the stock market have now been bought out completely by small investment companies - ie the super rich. Most of the activity on the stock market now is about gambling, not investment. Individual small investors should have the chance to invest longterm in genuine start-up enterprises.

[GunsNRosesbitches]

@nowthatsinteresting1 And by opportunity to seize, I mean there are investors that are trying to seize opportunities and take the risks for it. Creating jobs is just a byproduct.

[GunsNRosesbitches]

@nowthatsinteresting1 The profit ends up in the pockets of the shareholders...who are, in large numbers, American citizens. I have no problem with some Americans voluntarily pooling their money to a large corporation and hoping for good returns on their investments. There is nothing wrong or unconstitutional about that. You speak of jobs, but corporations are not created so other people can have jobs. Corporations are created because there is an opportunity to seize.

[nowthatsinteresting1]

@chiefmanytkdown2 You and I agree, then!

[nowthatsinteresting1]

@GunsNRosesbitches Not really - except ones that are backed by other corporations. There are the odd exceptions, but broadly whenever we spend money, the money goes to a corporation, the profit is moved to anywhere in the world, and a way-less-than-normal tax rate is paid. Why are people so defensive of corporations?? They represent the opposite of the free market, they operate effective cartels and they're destroying, not creating, jobs.

[GunsNRosesbitches]

@nowthatsinteresting1 New corporations form all the time...

[chiefmanytkdown2]

@nowthatsinteresting1 Actually the quotes you put around capitalists are very appropriate because the big corporatists are being funded by me not the smaller capitalist companies...big difference between a millionare and a billionare. What I am saying is that it is not the 1% that is the problem it is like the .000001 % that needs to be put in their place.

[nowthatsinteresting1]

@chiefmanytkdown2 Appreciate the irony! But too many 'capitalists' are being funded by you and I, the tax-payer...

[nowthatsinteresting1]

@GunsNRosesbitches No - I'm self-employed too. Why should the corporations own the free market? I should be allowed to compete too, even if I've got no money to fund political parties.

[chiefmanytkdown2]

@nowthatsinteresting1 I know how dare those capitalists spend there money how they want!

[BIBLEisMARKofBEAST]

Live after the spirit. Obama is destroying babylon.

[joanarc1111]

Please watch my story"TIFFANY LEBOUEF SEEKS JUSTICE". I have documents to prove my innocence yet no one wants to even acknowledge it. My life has been destroyed.

Look up PRISON STOCKS....very lucrative....WHO ARE THE INVESTORS???

I HOPE NOT THE JUDGES AND POLITICIANS.......

[Blackman1000ify]

@nowthatsinteresting1 Well at least one person finally commented with some sense.

[GunsNRosesbitches]

@nowthatsinteresting1 So my dad is a capitalist because he owns a pizza shop?

[nowthatsinteresting1]

@Macabremauve Fucking capitalists need to create their own society and leave ours alone. The very rich don't own the US - we the electorate allow them to exist if there is a benefit to us.

[Macabremauve]

Fucking Communists all need to go create their own society and leave ours alone.

[ThisIsRogueLiberty]

We are a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC...

...NOT a Democracy.

The Founders understood what has the best chance for prosperity and freedom for all...do you?

...where does the ACTUAL MONEY COME FROM TO FUND ANY FORM OF GOVERNMENT?

...WHAT SYSTEM CREATES THE MOST JOBS AND OPPORTUNITY?

It's CAPITALISM(.)

People better figure this out fast.

[somedeliciousbiscuit]

I was kinda expecting a movie trailer for V for Vendetta 2 when this started.