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[pdurr]

re: Subaltern - psst we are all SUBalterns by their standards cuz we aint hEARing. the question is when and how r we gonna be subaltern REBELS - read the book Bunjer. Either you have no idea what we have been doing or you are hopeless. I hate to give up hope so im just gonna cut you loose again until i SEE you actually do something instead of trying to bully folks into doing nothing like what u do. "Do you want to know who you are? Don't ask. Act! Action will delineate and define you." ~ TJ

[pdurr]

hmmm my "get lost and be gone bully" comment seems to have gotten lost and gone away. Regardless despite the advise that it is what will work instead of direct confrontation we see that simply saying "get lost and be gone" does NOT work. Instead it just emboldens the attacker to keep on. So too with AG Bell and AVT & CI - if we do not stand and challenge them - if we just say "get lost and be gone" or ignore them - we ARE ENABLING them. "come the avarice... come attrition...come bell..." V p

[Bunjer]

@pdurr Best stragety, tell the public that ICED, AGBELL and EDHI are the "Three Axis of Evil". The Audist Bullies need to go away, be gone! Stop Dealing with them to work things out. Bullies never reason. 2nd thing.. Deaf ASL Communities are able to decide what is best the Deaf Centric way in name of Democacy.. Never be a subaltern allowing hearing to decide what is best for the Deaf Communities.. That's not democracy but oppression! Insult your intelligence or be radical for positive change!

[Bunjer]

@ASLElla @ASLElla I believe you if you literally tell ICED, AGBELL and EDHI to "Get lost, and BULLIES be gone". I have not seen that yet. I saw DBC ask AGBELL to tear down the wall and allow ASL instead of telling AGBELL to go away.. See my point yet? I ain't dumb, and don't need action to prove anything yet. You do go to people like AGBELL to reason and beg them to change instead of telling them to go away. You wont allow Deaf Centered Politics to equal.. Sorry you go after heagbring do for u.

[ASLElla]

@Bunjer Who says AFA and DBC are trying to "reason with AGBell"? I think Sean Gerlis and a few of our current Deaf organization "leaders" (board members/CEO's/lawyers) such as CEASD and NAD have individually mentioned ideas of sitting at table with AGBell to develop compromises to "win" better legislation. I disagree with them, but it's all part of processing unity for our Deaf children. Personally, I think they'd be better working w allies and ignoring AGBell till AGB no more audist injustice

[ASLElla]

@Bunjer Not sure I am following you. And Im also not sure you are following AFA and DBC and what they re trying to do. What I know of their thinking and action and what you said about them are very different. I know you have NOT been to any of their functions or rallies, nor have you ACTED (other than typing and signing on the internet) what you believe in (as far as I know). Until you start matching your ACTIONS to what you SAY, I have a difficult time embracing your commands/suggestions. Sorry

[Bunjer]

@heeheeluck Reason with AGBELL and think they will change? Why depend on that bully? I told you to tell that Audist Organization to get lost instead. Why need and reason with them? Why tell that bully what to do? Your actions are a waste your time you could do better. I told you before, you only spinning your wheels or rowing a ship with one oar going in circles. You will get no where, and need AGB? Best way, AGBELL to cease and desist and Deaf be in postitive control of our Deaf Communities!

[heeheeluck]

Bunjer, Do you listen to nobody? So why should we listen to you? Get it? If not, then go row your own boat. If not, then sorry you, but you are spinning the wheels until tires burn and go no where. You are all talk and no action.

[Bunjer]

@ASLElla Patti should stop including you too. Not only AFA goes to AGBELL and try to reason with the bully, but so does DBC! Going to ICED and AGBAD, and even EDHI. Totally a waste of time reasoning with the bullies. Easiest way, tell them to cease and desist, and/or get the hell out of the Deaf Communities. They do more damage than any good! Yet you go to them! Enabling them bullies who are not your ALLIES the first place!. Want them to stick around and continue to exploit us forever? HELL NO!

[ASLElla]

@bunjer hey! Suggest you remove your comment to pdurr here. I know u think u re telling the truth but you are doing it blindly just because you were slighted. Knowing pdurr as I do, what happened is of your own request not hers. LEARN from pdurr of what standing up for truth WITH the oppressor is a damn courageous and appropriate way to do. I emphasize ONE way, not the only way. So do it your way but dont u dare pull down others who are doing it in support of Deaf future and at same time being