James White Confesses on Sola Scriptura
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@JayElleist The Word of God is not only written and that is the problem with the idea you present. The written word is confined to paper and cannot be the ultimate authority when people confuse the context or simply do not understand the words or cannot read. Thus why the scriptures themselves point to the fact that the church is the pillar & foundation of truth where the church is made up of BOTH oral and written traditions to serve equally together to form the deposit of faith.
catchzz 2 months ago
@MysticalCity Separation from wickedness is the most Biblical act any true Christian will do.
JayElleist 3 months ago
@MysticalCity God is not the author of confusion, but can light have fellowship with darkness? Just because someone claims they are of Christ doesn't mean squat if they are claiming a gospel outside of the one that is in the Bible. Satan has many different versions of Jesus, but the real Jesus convicts men of sins and offers forgiveness for true repentance. The real Jesus says take up your cross and follow me, and that means follow HIM under threat of death.
JayElleist 3 months ago
@JayElleist OT, The Catholic Church came before The NT was written.
Phil. 2:2 - St.Paul prays that Christians be of the same mind, of one accord. Yet there are 30,000 different "Protest"ant denominations?
1 Cor. 14:33 - God cannot be the author of the Protestant confusion. Only the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church claims and proves to be Christ's Church.
MysticalCity 3 months ago
@JayElleist I am not trying to disregard the church and traditions, but they are not on the same level with the word of God, they are lower courts of authority. If we find error in the established system, according to what the Bible says, we are to eradicate it. The only reason we know what is right and wrong according to Christ is by reading His word and meditating on it.
JayElleist 3 months ago
@MysticalCity As for the Catholic Church coming before the written word then we must ask what was Jesus referring to when he rebuked the devil in the wilderness by saying "It is written"?
JayElleist 3 months ago
The Catholic Church came first, then the Bible. The Bible wasn't even compiled until the Council of Rome in 382, and printing presses weren't invented until 1440. If protestants really think that the Bible is the only way for salvation, then what about those poor souls for 1500 years who didn't have a Bible? Christ established an authority on earth to preserve His revelation and decide the Bible canon. This authority is the Holy Catholic Church.
MysticalCity 4 months ago
Matt 18:15-17... You can not tell it to Scripture...
Yankeegator 4 months ago
At this point Ill let u have the notion the inspired canon is only 66 books. Ill even let u have the notion that God dropped the bible out of the sky to avoid u thinking the binding of scripture is a tradition of men. But I can go to the written Word of God your ONLY source of authority, & find that the church is the pillar/foundation of truth. What came first, the inspired canon or the church? I agree 100% w/ 2 Tim 3:16, but that doesnt say ONLY or ALONE or even define what books are scripture.
catchzz 6 months ago
@catchzz The bible alone is the word of God. There are no new revelations coming to us today, the canon is closed.
"What goods a book you call infallible then?"
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
How did we come up with the inspired word of God we have today? Not by mans tradition, but rather by Gods providence.
InTheSpirit12 6 months ago