A sceptics rant: Afrocentric History

A rather too long rant on Afrocentric history, provoked by the difficulty in researching African history online that is neither racist nor pseudo-historical, politically motivated drivel.

Please remember this is a rant and is not meant to be entirely academic or well reasoned - the serious stuff will have actual references, I promise! Critique and comments welcome!

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• africa
• afrocentrism
• scepticism
• ranting
• nonsense
• pseudo-history
• angry

[0Uhuru0]

I really tried to listen to this vid with an open mind but your condescension made that difficult. It seems you have reduced the study/understanding of African history to drunk nuts on the internet. I'll never understand where the antagonistic feelings come from towards African centered people FROM other Africans. Usually these same people don't engage other non-Africans in this manner....we usually reserve this for each other.

[Sapphonouveau]

@0Uhuru0 Thank you for commenting. Obviously the sort of afrocentrism I'm ranting about is not all there is to african history but my irritation was in the fact that to someone who is not of african descent, they might think that it was. The antagonistic feelings probably come from what are seen as patronising attempts at telling us what our historical narrative is, and what we should be concerned with, as though the experience of one group of similarly myelinated people is the same everywhere.

[AfricaTeacher]

I tried to get around this but uploading some scholarly lectures but it really didn't work, the fools flooded in and started petty arguments about race. This is something you nor I can fix unless we present NEW and INTERESTING hypothesis or presentations on African History.

Unfortunately what you will end up doing is reading books, many of these books are quite old too. The new research on African history is there but it is not easy to access able on the web.

I will send you an email.

[Sapphonouveau]

@AfricaTeacher Thank you for commenting! And thank you for saying everything I wanted to express in a coherent fashion.

[Tessier9999]

You accused black people of making up history, but I wonder whether you read the evidence or do you just scoff it off as impossible. Black africans have built great civilizations, from Askum to Songhai, from Egypt to Nubia. Hmm, I see you have no prolem believeing europeans on their history. I wonder why?

[Sapphonouveau]

@Tessier9999 And thank you for commenting!

[TheJungleCityKilla]

@PiotrThePrimate It's Funny You Mention The Hausa Who Like The Ancient Egyptians Were Afro-Asiatic.

[chrlsshwn]

4. (book) Destruction of Black Civilization by Chancellor Williams...And just so u know. All these men have done real reach that can not be shaken. 5. Dr. Ray Hagin "The Verdict is In" (vid) 6. Ray Hagin "The Council of Nicea 325 A.D (vid) The reason why we fight to show our history is to lift our peoples spirits to do better have self pride. This info will give our people the drive to reach for excellence as there mothers and fathers did back then. I will be glad to help anyone who have Quest?

[chrlsshwn]

U need help so I'll help you and everybody who views this vid. 1.Dr John Henrik Clarke...doc "A Great and Might Walk" shows how important history is to its people. 2. (book) Stolen Legacy by George G.M James...Greek Philosophy is 1/10 of copied Eygptian Philosophy...And the Greeks scholars Socrates, Plato, Aristotle and many more say that they learn from Kemet (Egypt) which meant land of the blacks. 3 U also asked about DNA look up Cheikh Anta Diop..finalized our history with DNA.

[kingzula]

@AfricaTeacher can you send me some emails to?

[kingzula]

@Sapphonouveau one more thing i dont think the ancient Egyptians thought of themselves as black. i will argue that probably no African saw themselves as black until people from outside of Africa came in and told them they were.

[kingzula]

@Sapphonouveau as for music mostly 70's and 80's r&b. some of the older rap and i like disco. also many white groups like the bee gees, kc and the sunshine band(they were interracial) hall & oats. all that old stuff

[kingzula]

@Sapphonouveau in the end your right that people have the right to define themselves the way they wish. the Sudanese say their Arabs. the Swahili say their Persians. many Egyptians say their not Africans. but many times as you know the genetics say something different. i define myself as a person of African descent who was born in England from Caribbean parents who immigrated to the USA when i was 12, and who's ancestry has little to do with Egypt

[kingzula]

@Sapphonouveau yes it does depend on the debunker.but there is a debate in Egypt on how to define themselves. some define themselves as Arabs some as Copts. but there is a group of Egyptians that are really never herd. the so-called "black" Egyptians from Upper Egypt. they see themselves as the real Egyptians and feel the government intentionally destroyed there culture when they build the Aswan dam. they look at the other Egyptians as invaders and they have been removed from history