Greg Bahnsen - Problems for Unbelieving Worldviews (part 6)

Dr. Greg L. Bahnsen - Basic Training for Defending the Faith. Problems for Unbelieving Worldviews - part six of nine.

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[fiercegallantry]

Incorrect.

Yes, I use my senses, but they are not the utlimate source of knowledge. The last century of philosophical debate has shown conclusively that sense percetption *cannnot* be the ultimate foundation of sense perception.

I use my sense perceptions because the Christian world-view allows me to do so. The self-revelation of God precedes sense perception.

[fiercegallantry]

I should have said "athiestic" universe or "materialistic" or even "undirected" unverse.

My brain often gets ahead of my fingers...

[JPBuysjr]

@UnBeguiled Animals only act upon an impulse that is based on desire. Im not an animal specialist by any means, but one of the fundamental differences again is the moral argument between is and animals. When a lion kills a gazelle or his own cubs, the lion is not murdering the gazelle, it is killing the gazelle. You don walk up to the lion and send it to jail for murdering a gazelle. They are not moral, or rational in the sense of choice

[UnBeguiled]

@JPBuysjr

Is it your contention that no non-human animal can think and choose between options?

[JPBuysjr]

@UnBeguiled The dog or squirrel or gazelle is not acting rationally. They are only acting upon an impulse that will help them survive. They are not thinking as if they are "choosing rationally" to run from the lion, they just do it. This is how and why humans are different. The ability to think and choose between options. Just a small example

[jaynkay100]

@niggaids Tell me how God's omniscience creates freedom in your life. Tell me how YOUR nature, doesn't govern you. Tell me how you are NOT subject to nature. How can you back this up without unsubstantive claims?

How can YOUR reason get off the ground without relying on the very concepts you claim are invalid??

You can't. Your foolish if you believe otherwise.

[niggaids]

@jaynkay100 You can't even get off the ground with what "reason," is and how you know it works within a material worldview. In your worldview you can't make free decisions and your bound to say the things you do because of nature/physics. You can't help but type back a response, nature demanded it. You aren't "arguing," but rather just subject to nature. That isn't what we've seen in the past when we talk about reason and if you can you get over there not being a God, get over this.

[gvassi17]

I love how consistent Mr.Bahnsen is... just takes everything to its logical conclusion which exposes its absurdity...

[nextluther12]

Bahnsen is truly missed. He was one of the best apologist in the whole of the Christian Church.

[funhistory]

Pretty girl picks her nose at 1:54 - 1:56, then notices the camera 4 seconds later & wipes it as an introduction to the 4th problem for unbelievers of Personal Freedom & Human Dignity.

[matternicuss]

we bury our dead because we know (whether instinctively or through experience) that dead bodies harbor disease. we have rituals known as funerals because we have empathy, both for the dead and the living who knew the person. funerals are a way for the living to cope, not for the dead. and other animals do show rational and or empathetic behavior around dead things (elephants), it's just most animals are not sophisticated enough to create rituals.