What Are Property Rights

An inquiry into the nature of property rights and its relationship to liberty.

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[bozolazic]

@kshackleton Maybe in the sense of being invaded but that depends on who you ask, specifically a Native or a Muslim.Since the so-called war on terror began we have been creating more terrorists not less and the blowback could get ugly.But I don't feel safe about the fact that we are killing ourselves to live by polluting the air, water and soil leading to diseases and deformities.Manipulation of food stuffs and on.We don't respect the earth.Whereas the Natives were the opposite.

[bozolazic]

@kshackleton Yes, I do understand that the chief could not just do as he pleases, he was there for the benefit of all and that he can be overruled by others, such as the mothers.None the less there were still leaders.As far as raiding neighbors on a regular basis, the so-called civilized West raids the world on a daily basis.I sure would not want to be the poor people at the end of spreading democracy and freedom campaign(Orwellian terms) in countries all around the world!Civilized?

[bozolazic]

@kshackleton Communism and Anarchism may have similarities but they are not the same.I don't want to get into semantics and the different variances with regards the two ideologies.Natives never knew of capitalism, fighting over different religions and the ruling classes, yet they did live similar to both of them.A new category is called for, I'll use your term of free individuals in independent bands.

[kshackleton]

@bozolazic

Actually, they were communists in the purest sense. People contributed according to their abilities, and everything was shared according to their needs. That applied to those within the band, outsiders were often killed.

[kshackleton]

@bozolazic

Anthropologists have actually studied murders in various cultures. Today, you live in the safest time ever known....so long as you live in a western democracy.

[kshackleton]

@bozolazic

The chiefs in those societies were people that you went to for advice, because they had the most experience. In the non-agrarian societies, the chiefs had no right to impose their will on anyone. If you know anything about natives, you should have known that. They lived as free individuals in independent bands. It's as close to anarchy as you can get, and they fought with, and raided their neighbors on a regular basis.

[bozolazic]

"Whenever there is in any country, uncultivated lands and unemployed poor, it is clear that the laws of property have been so far extended as to violate natural right."

---Thomas Jefferson

[bozolazic]

The first man who,having fenced in a piece of land, said "This is mine,"and found people naïve enough to believe him,that man was the true founder of civil society.From how many crimes,wars,and murders,from how many horrors and misfortunes might not any one have saved mankind,by pulling up the stakes,or filling up the ditch,and crying to his fellows:Beware of listening to this impostor;you are undone if you once forget that the fruits of the earth belong to us all,and the earth itself to nobody

[bozolazic]

@kshackleton I forgot to mention that if there were elders(mothers and fathers), spiritual, warrior and medicine men leaders, how can that be Anarchism.Anarchy means No Chief or leader.As far as I can tell they were more democratic than my representative democracy is today.If you totaled the numbers of Native murders relative to civilized murders, it would be like comparing an atom to an elephant.

[bozolazic]

@kshackleton Humans in so-called civilized life are ultra-violent.Compared with the conquerors,as far as I can tell, the savage was noble.At the time, if I were to make an agreement with somebody and I had a choice between the English and a Native,I would definitely make a deal with a Native because his word was bond relative to the English.How many millions of Natives had to be exterminated to bring about this  so-called civilized life.Native property rights=Nobody owns the land.