POLISH LITHUANIAN COMMONWEALTH

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The Polish--Lithuanian Commonwealth was one of the largest and most populous countries in 17th-century Europe. Its political structure—that of a semi-federal, semi-confederal aristocratic republic—was formed in 1569 by the Union of Lublin, which united the Crown of the Polish Kingdom and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, and lasted in this form until the adoption of the Constitution of May 3, 1791. The Commonwealth covered not only the territories of what is now Poland and Lithuania, but also the entire territory of Belarus and Latvia, large parts of Ukraine and Estonia, and part of present-day western Russia (Smolensk and Kaliningrad oblasts). Originally the official languages of the Commonwealth were Polish and Latin (in the Kingdom of Poland) and Ruthenian and Lithuanian (in the Grand Duchy of Lithuania).
The creation of the Commonwealth by the Union of Lublin in 1569 was one of the signal achievements of Sigismund II Augustus, last monarch of the Jagiellon dynasty, in an effort to preserve the monarchy by adopting elective monarchy. His death in 1572 was followed by a three-year interregnum during which adjustments were made to the constitutional system that effectively increased the power of the nobility and established a truly elective monarchy.

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[panamarcina]

Dla mnie ten film jest lekiem na polskie kompleksy , pokazuje ,że nie tylko nie mamy się czego wstydzić ale pod względem wolności i tolerancji mamy tradycje znacznie starsze i bogatsze niż zachodnia europa.

[makasiukas]

I think that this disagreements between Lithuania and Poland is inspired by Moscow... I like polish people as much as lithuanian, i think of polish people as cousins :) Lets stop this crazy disagreements and concentrate on firendship, as it was for 500 years in the commonwealth.

[MaximusProteus]

@GoDLiKeKakashi Poland never claimed Samogitia, then it was even a separate Duchy. Not only didn`t expanded, soon Lithuania lost some 1/3 territory to Moscow and Black sea cost to Tatars. The biggest advantage after the union and a war 1409-11 was vassalage of Moldova, for a while Rhyazan and Novogrod, which was ruled by Lingwen, Jagiełło`s brother. Only prestige, "influence" and no profit.

Casimir IV Jagiellon was far better

You just aren`t very covincing... sleep well princess

[GoDLiKeKakashi]

@MaximusProteus he reclaimed the land that Poland claimed as well dunno what it is called some polish name so both countries were able to expand after the war and his dinasty allowed poland to become as influencial as it did in central europe, anyway you just stick to your version if it helps you sleep at night now good bye I don't want to waste my time having an argument with no conclusion.

[MaximusProteus]

@GoDLiKeKakashi :)

Which lands? You know same as i do that Samogitia is not a Polish land and that`s all he regained. Privillages, privillages, just corruption, but ok - point for you.

I`m sorry to disappoint you, Queen Jadwiga gaved her whole treasury and personally applied to the Pope in Avignon to renew the academy. The name "Jagiellonian" was added for university of Kraków in... 1817.

[GoDLiKeKakashi]

@MaximusProteus okay here are some examples: He fulfilled his promises and repeatedly lifted his sword to regain lost lands. He liberally increased nobleman's privileges. His most important activity was in the cultural field. In the year 1400, he reestablished the inactive University of Cracow by renewing its deed of foundation and by generously contributing to its existence. To this day the university bears his name "Uniwersytet Jagiellonski".

[MaximusProteus]

@GoDLiKeKakashi Joking, i`m deliberatelly using the names in ruski becouse that was the language of GDL. Kings in Poland were elected by the senate then, Jagiełło granted a privillage of Jedlna for nobles to accept his sucessor.

Hey, proove me wrong and answer, what did he done so great for Poland? Samogitia was taken back after the war 1409-11, why didn`t he took Pommerelia? We got nothing on that war.

The previous war with "crusaders" we had about a century before.

[GoDLiKeKakashi]

@MaximusProteus yeah you are obviously looking at something else entirely Jogaila is btw the creator of Jagiellon dynasty as you call it but you know I honestly cant be bothered to talk to somebody who obv is too stubborn to see anything but his "right" view. Samogitia was sold for a brief time to end a civil war and later reconquered and Teotonics were fighting you as much as us "christianising" was just their reason, whereas they really wanted land.

[MaximusProteus]

Sorry guys i`m not so gay about this sexy union, but it all comes at the end to that... one is Lithuanian, other Rusin and i`m Polish, so why should i care for others that dont care about me? Now we have only troubles becouse of it.

[MaximusProteus]

@GoDLiKeKakashi What`s a "Jogaila"? Do you mean Ягайла? No thanks, you could keep him, i don`t care for Samogitia that his cousin sold to Germans. That wasn`t a part of the deal and what else did he accomplished?

Sorry to say, he wanted Lithuania to be independent... under his rule, like Poland, that`s why he made Вітаўт to swear loyalty.

We could and we did some time before and after, but... we weren`t fighting Germans at that time and they didn`t wanted to "christianise" us.

[MaximusProteus]

@Guillhez Alive and kicking, like nation of that is, marine, merchant and expansive.

Since you can`t move out and change your geographical position, i`d say it`s more an excuse for weaknes. Others haven`t had it lighter, not Germans and especially not Pussia. Commonwealth was rotten from inside, from republic it changed into oligarchy like nobility into magnatery.

[GoDLiKeKakashi]

@MaximusProteus haha we gave you your greatest dinasty our Grand Duke Jogaila who became you King accomplished all he promised to do for Poland while treating Lithuania fairly and he is the only King I respect that ruled both nations as took care of them both equally and wanted Lithuania to have independence you could not defeat the Teotons that why you came to us asking for help.