The origins of the Spanish Civil War 01/06

1. The origins of the Spanish Civil War

Interviewees: Alvaro Delgado (Young Republican), Justino De Azcarate (Under-secretary of Justice), Narciso Julian (Socialist Worker), Timoteo Ruiz (Peasant's Son), Manuel Vazquez Guillen (Land Laborer), Felix Moreno De La Cova (Landowner), Jose Jevgara (Land Reform Official), Pilar Primo De Rivera, Marcel Giro (Catalan Autonomist), Manuel Diez Alegria (Army Officer), Frederica Montseny (Anarchist Leader), Socrates Gomez (Socialist Youth), Manuel Montequin (Asturian Miner), Dolores Ibarruri ('La Pasionaria,' Communist M.P.), Tomas Garicano Goni (Army Officer, Emissary for Mola), Ramon Serrano Suner (Franco's Brother-in-Law), Captain Bebb (Freelance Pilot), Alfredo Leon Lupion (Assault Guard Officer), Juan Manuel Molina (Anarchist Militant), Josep Tarradellas (Minister in Catalan Government).

People: King Alfonso the Thirteenth, Federico Lorca, General Francisco Franco, General José Sanjurjo, the CNT-FAI, Benito Mussolini and the Fascist Party, Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, the Nationalist Socialist Party of Germany, José Calvo Sotelo, José Antonio Primo de Rivera, General Emilio Mola, Francisco Largo Caballero, Lieutenant José Castillo, Indalecio Prieto, Casares Quiroga.

Places: Belchite, Barcelona in Catalonia, Bilbao in the Basque Country, Andalusia, Astorias, Estremadura, Madrid, Pamplona in Navarre, Spanish Morocco.

Terms: Civil War, Democracy, Fascists and Fascism, Idealists and Idealism, the Second Spanish Republic, Military Coup, El Nina Bonita ("The Beautiful Girl"), Monarchists and Monarchy, Liberals and Liberalism, Dictatorship, Dictators, Agrarian and Working Class, Socialists and Socialism, Social and Land Reforms, Farm Laborers and Industrial Workers, Unemployment and Recession, Economic Exploitation and Wage Slavery, Poverty and Impoverishment, "Neither Property Nor God Nor Bosses," the Catholic Church, Riots, Protests, and Popular Uprisings, Fanaticism and Terrorism, Public Education, Catalan Autonomist Movement, Autonomy, Industrializing and Industrialization, the Right Wing and Rightists, the Left Wing and Leftists, Nationalism and National Unity, Anarchists and Anarchism, Anarcho-Syndicalism, Revolutionary Syndicalism, Casas Viejas, Parliamentary System and Electoral Politics, Women's Suffrage, the General Strike, Overthrow of the State, the Asturias Uprising, the Popular Front, Land Seizures, Carlism and the Carlist Movement, the Spanish Foreign Legion, "the Dictatorship of the Proletariat," Assassinations and Political Extremism.

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[MrMcGale]

@CubanodePlacetas State-Capitalism is a left-wing totalitarian ideology. It's not Communism, and never will be. They are Socialists, but they are too authoritarian to be Communists. Communism cannot blossom in a one-man dictatorship. And no. Socialism can be many things other than Communism. Communism is just one of the millions of Socialist ideologies.

[CubanodePlacetas]

@MrMcGale This is just not a person, all the communists parties in Europe and elsewhere recognized the Soviet Union and now Castro like the socialist leaders. Now that the end is near they are trying to pushed them to the side. We are not going to let that happen. Rightly they can called themselves communists and the system communists, since socialism is the early stage of communism, just as they claime capitalist has two stages, nonetheless at every stage it was capitalism.

[MrMcGale]

@CubanodePlacetas I know much about Castro and the Soviet Union, but you seem to know nothing of Communism. Just because a person says he's a communist, that doesn't mean he is. I can say I'm a capitalist, but am I? State-Socialism is what you're looking at. Communism is stateless, it is classless, it is equal. No person has the authority to be a dictator in Communism. And the Soviet Union was far from Communism. It was State-Socialist(Totalitarian centre-left.)

[CubanodePlacetas]

@MrMcGale You know nothing about Castro and the Soviet Union, you just play communism "from ear". Castro said he was not communist before he came to power and during the first 2 and a half year of his reign. After in 1961 he declare himself communist and all his life after that he had been saying that he was communist always. The Soviet Union was also communist according to them. In the 80's they were in the stage of "Razvitoe Socialism" (Developpe Socialism). After that communist would arrive.

[MrMcGale]

@CubanodePlacetas You know more about Communism than a Communist? The Soviet Union was state-socialist authoritarian, and never claimed to be Communist. Cuba's leader, Castro has said that "I am not a Communist, and neither is Cuba". I say listen to those people. You know nothing about Communism. What is it? It's a stateless, classless, equal straight democracy. It cannot be a republic, it can only be a Commune. I've also been to Cuba, and spoken to party members. They know Cuba's not Communist.

[CubanodePlacetas]

@MrMcGale No, I am not high on anything, your are probably the one who is drinking too much of the cool aid that the communist hand to their followers as to cloud their thinking. I know communism far better than you, not only because of my experiences living in Cuba and the Soviet Union, but also because while studying in the Soviet Union I had to study or their rotten theories. For your knowledge, my physician in the USSR was one of those sent to Spain by Staling to fight in the civil war.

[MrMcGale]

@CubanodePlacetas They didn't...? Are you high or something? The leading party was a Socialist left-leaning party. Also, they didn't confiscate church property, they just didn't accept a State Religion. Also, I'd like to know how you view Communism.

[CubanodePlacetas]

@MrMcGale Yeah, right it was not communist! They confiscated property, private property, church property, change the money to coupons forcing business to accept it, associated themselves with the Soviet Union to the point of bringing troops from that country in large scale, assasinated priests, nuns, etc...and you say it is not communists! Interesting.

[MrMcGale]

@CubanodePlacetas Communist Slavery? That's a contradiction. The Spanish Republic was great. Yes, it was Socialist, but it was nowhere near Communism.

[Interbrigadist]

@CubanodePlacetas READ HISTORY! Were CNT/FAI Communists?

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