Coastline Bible Church - "The Teaching That Lead To The Loss Of My Faith"

I've talked about the eventual loss of my faith in previous videos and interviews but since it so directly relates to this church I felt the need to include it in this series. So consider this a bonus video.

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[SentientMajority]

Hi, Dan. Another important video.

Like you, the sheer volume of distortions and outright lies I was taught in mainstream Christianity eventually demolished my faith in religion.

Although the anger and sense of betrayal I felt (and sometimes still feel) has been terribly painful, I'm honestly grateful that I managed to get out without killing myself -- the self-hatred that gay people are taught to feel for themselves in mainstream Christianity can become crippling, and even deadly.

[awaseniu]

Why does the Homosexual community have to put up with this crappola? God loves us all.

[Doulos7608]

@TheStrong32 My bad. Messed up the last quote from the text in Koine Greek.

1 Cor. 6:9

ē ouk oidate oti adikoi theou basileian ou klēronomēsousin mē planasthe oute pornoi oute eidōlolatrai oute moichoi oute malakoi oute arsenokoitai

The notes on translation are the same.

[Doulos7608]

@TheStrong32 Look these things up if you don't believe me. The source you are getting this information up is unscholarly at best and dishonest at worst. This is what the Scriptures say. It is a moral code and law of ethics that is incontrovertible, spoken through the prophets and apostles by the Holy Spirit.

Nobody is forcing you to be a Christian. If you disagree with what the Scriptures say, fine. Be an atheist. Be a pagan. But at least be an honest one.

[Doulos7608]

@TheStrong32 1 Cor. 6:9

ē adikoi klēronomēsousin basileian theou planasthe oute pornoi oute eidōlolatrai oute moichoi oute malakoi oute arsenokoitai

The word you are thinking of "malakoi, malakos (Strong's 3120)". Means soft, delicate, effeminate.

The word that is translated as sodomite is "arsenokoitai", which comes from the two words "arsén" (Strong's 733b, male) and "koité" (Strong's 2845, a bed, marriage bed, to lie with, repeated sexual intercourse).

[TheStrong32]

@Doulos7608 "men who practice homosexuality"

The Bible doesn't say that. See how homophobes are so desperate to use religion to rationalize their bias that they actually change the words of Scripture. The Greek word in I Cor.6:9 is "malakos"; which, according to Strong's Concordance means: "persons in general who are guilty of addiction to sins of the flesh." This applies to anybody, gay or straight. Woe to him who adds to or subtracts from Scripture.

[Doulos7608]

@TheStrong32 1 Corinthians 6:9-10

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Not my opinion, but the law of God. No spin or special interpretation needed, just the ability to read. Jeeze guy, what you said sure does sound like judgement.

[TheStrong32]

@Doulos7608 "You were never a believer."

Pretty judgemental there. You are so blinded by your prejudice you don't see what a hypocrite you are. You teach that people should'nt worship idols or follow the example of Lucifer, yet you set yourself up as God. You have no way of knowing what is or was in his heart, yet you pretend to be able to judge him. Your interpretation of 1 John depends upon your presumption that YOU are with John--maybe you have been seperated from the Church by your bias.

[MattFrame]

Anti-gays always end up trying to make a correlation between consensual adult relationships like homosexuality, and pedophilia, bestiality, necrophilia, etc., which the rational among us know is absurd & dishonest. No child, animal, corpse, etc., can ever give informed, adult consent, so bringing paraphilias into the mix is a non-starter. It just goes to show how desperate to justify themselves the anti-gays are.

And since no gays ever stop str8s from "evolving", no, they are not a hindrance.

[Doulos7608]

@MattFrame I didn't actually say anything about raping animals, but alright. I did, however, mention pedurism, which technically would be a consensual relationship. Would you stop people from being happy?

Can you deny that homosexuals are a hinderance on human evolution?

[MattFrame]

@Doulos7608, of course, trying to compare consensual, adult relationships with raping raping and abusing animals is both irrational and idiotic. While you have every right to remain ignorant and hateful, is that all you want for yourself? Think about it.

[rooio3]

Doulos7608 - "according to the Apostle John ..." and that was your one big mistake right there. The source of all this nonsense. Only the religious think homosexuality is a disorder or disease, despite the many numerous research studies proving it isn't. Not to mention the genetic research, neurological research, twin studies, population studies...on and on. It's called Technological Advancement. It's 2011 now. Citing from a mythical book is not going to help you.