This is from a discussion between rational YouTuber Thunderfoot and ignorant Creationist Ray Comfort.
Part 1 is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2FskTKrx40
Creationists have to concede on point after point. Ray Comfort is a hardcore Creationist, and yet he admits that speciation takes place. When pushed on the subject, Creationists will usually have to admit each thing separately (beneficial mutations, speciation, etc.). However, despite admitting that all aspects of Evolution happens, they wil keep insisting that it doesn't (and therefore that what they just admitted to doesn't happen).
Source video (part 7 of the dsicussion):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKJUnZRptIM
Ray's own blog (apparentlY):
http://raycomfortfood.blogspot.com/2009/07/debate-with-thunderfoot.html
@BobH1337
yes.. it is. Do you understand how different they would have to be that they wouldn't be able to breed with each other anymore?
All evolution is, is continual changes from generation to generation eventually leading to an animal so different from its ancestors that it can be considered a new species. That IS evolution, unless you think some how that the only thing changing in there from that selective breeding are reproductive organs?
What did you personally think evolution was?
KevinLounsberry 1 year ago
that is in favt evolution... the species has 'evolved' it is now something elese... it is not the original...and cannot breed with its parent or cousin species...
it is a new type... a new KIND of organism... and it can never go back to being the same as the plant or animal it evolved from. That creature might indeed continue in tandem...but they cannot breed with one another... and can only now diverge further!
You basically stated that 'evolution' is not 'evolution'...
MumblingMickey 2 years ago
How is this NOT evolution? Please explain.
Renzosuken 2 years ago
I'm a Christian and I believe in speciation. But that has nothing to do with evolution.
You separate a population and get some random mutation to the point where they can't breed or you hybridize a population.
That's not evolution. =/
BobH1337 2 years ago