A Lesson in Critical Thinking: The Ontological Argument for Disproving God

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[esaunders07]

God isn't out to "convince" you of His existence. That would essentially be immoral. If God went about convincing us of His existence in bold ways, surely that would be counterproductive to drawing us into a loving relationship with Him. The key word there is "loving". God doesn't simply want us to be convinced of His existence, He wants to draw us into a loving relationship with Him. He has, however, given us an abundance of evidence to show He exists, albeit in somewhat a subtle fashion.

[DangerousTalk]

@esaunders07 Why? Why has God given us an "abundance of evidence" in a "subtle fashion?" How can we have a loving relationship with something if we don't know if it exists or not?

[DangerousTalk]

@esaunders07 Why would that be counterproductive? We can't choose to love someone unless we at least know that exist, right? Do you love my sister? How can you if you don't even know if I have a sister?

[knux003]

maybe god doesn't exist by that specific definition.

you can't disprove god's existance, and you shouldn't have to. let the theists try and prove it exists.

[DangerousTalk]

@knux003 I don't have to, but I did anyway.

[dangle66]

I think the problem with this video from a theist perspective is the use of the word 'convince.' Theists hear this and will point to the free will argument. However there is a problem with this free will argument. The only way we truly have free will is if god does NOT know the future. If god does know the future, that means he created atheists knowing they would be atheist and doomed to hell. Wouldn't that be immoral?

[ArmyOfWalrus]

If there was an intelligent creator, it couldn't be the Christian god.

[JustAMan400]

Then you would be a robot.

[myseterio]

GOD CONVINCE EVERYONE NOT ONLY THEIST BUT ALSO ATHEIST

[lhnsixthhr2012]

@esaunders07 You seem to have thought of God. Therefore, He must exist.

[eddytam]

@thetraceur123: I critically thought about your comment and failed as to understand why anyone might take your argument seriously.

@maxman2324: I know I am getting off my speaking from some self-constructed pedestal as I say this... but I find it very hard to take someone who spells 'whole' without a 'w' seriously. Compound that with your use of 'your'... eek!