Final Cut: The Making and Unmaking of Heaven's Gate (Part 6 of 8)
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@kubrickzghost "You have to choose between art and studio." No you don't. There's where collaborations and compromises create great art. See The Third Man. It's not a choice between Cimino and Puff Daddy as there are myriad shades of gray. Cimino's indulgences prevented other artists from expressing themselves because UA couldn't afford to greenlight their movies. Kubrick was a perfectionist but he wasn't out of control.
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You guys think 5 hours is bad? Rainer Werner Fassbinder made a 15+ hour film. He separated it into parts though, to be fair.
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Does anyone know the name of the song that plays at the 9:00 minutes mark? I don't think it's on the soundtrack.
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All i can say is WOW....5 Hours.
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@shockraid1 FTW
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I really want that 5 hour version on Criterion DVD! NOW!
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@kubrickzghost We didn't lose a damn thing; Michael wanted addicted to this movie like a junkie on meth. UA tried to "take him to rehab", so to speak, but took too much time beating around the bush. Should have taken him there sooner, that's what I say. Or better yet, they should have "kicked him out of the house"
P. Diddy may have killed Kashmir, but he also gave us B.I.G., so he gets a break. It's not like
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That was too much!! I remember the initial battle sequence from Saving Private Ryan was only about 20-25 minutes long, and it was so intense that it felt as it was longer than that. So imagine a 2-hour-plus battle sequence!! The guy was a megalomaniac!! Good riddance from the Hollywood medium, artist or no artist!!
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What is the point of that Shaw bitch trying to defend a lost cause all these years later??!! Stupid cunt!! Maybe Cimino tapped that ass furiously while high on coke, and that's what she remembers so dearly of him!!
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A feature length FIGHT SEQUENCE?!
shockraid1 2 years ago 20
Try watching 1900. If you walk out of that film not wanting more, then you just don't get it. Hands down, Heavens Gate has some of the most beautiful vista shots in cinema. If you let an artist be a perfectionist, they will. The secret to movies is that you don't need perfection to create a perfect moment. At the same time, you can't restrain an artist without force. You have to choose between art and studio. It's give and take. You all lost Cimino, but gained Puff Daddy. How's that workin out?
kubrickzghost 2 years ago 9