Mark Steyn on America, Europe and Islam (2 of 4)

LOPEZ: You talk a lot about demographics and Muslims. Whats so wrong with more Muslims in the West?

STEYN: The short answer is: in theory, nothing. But were talking about immigrants with a strong sense of identity emigrating to countries with virtually no sense of their own identity. And the history of the last few decades in Europe is that, when youre raised in the nullity of cultural relativism and invited to despise the inheritance of the land whose citizenship you hold, you look elsewhere for identity: The modern multicultural identity is too weak to have any purchase on most people, and so some of them look elsewhere and find the jihad. Not all of them, but enough. The man behind the Daniel Pearl beheading, the Tube bombers, the Torontonians plotting to behead the Canadian prime minister: these are all citizens of the west — British subjects born and bred, second- and third-generation — but their primary identity is not British or French or Belgian. My book argues that Islamism is merely the first of many post-nationalist identities to threaten the nation state.

LOPEZ: The war on terror is a civil war in Europe already? Is there any hope for our friends across the pond?

STEYN: Yes, to this extent. The first Western European nation to collapse into total civic breakdown over its fundamentally contradictory bicultural tensions will, I hope, concentrate the minds of others. The best sign that youre about to go over the waterfall is if the canoe 200 yards ahead suddenly disappears. That gives you a chance at least to pull for shore.

LOPEZ: You say we need to end the Iranian regime. How?

STEYN: By internal destabilization. Theyre doing it to us in Iraq and we just sit back and take it. Just as theres a natural constituency for the mullahs in Iraq, so theres a natural constituency for reform and freedom and opportunity and womens rights in Iran. Radical Islam is bankrupt and all but exhausted there. If America cant apply serious internal pressure for the amount of money the Federal budget has on tap for these things, we might as well throw every dollar at that bridge to nowhere in Alaska.

LOPEZ: You also write in a list of ways we can help Muslims reform Islam — that we should Support womens rights — real rights, not feminist pieties — in the Muslim world. Are American feminist lefties mature enough to do that — and work with Mark Steyn on that endeavor?

STEYN: No. The trivia of identity-group politics in America is beyond parody: Women are now so dominant at, say, U.S. law schools that feminist groups are reduced to complaining about the lack of female pipe-fitters. If this keeps up, circa 2015 NOW will be complaining that there are too few female wait staff. And circa 2020 that there are too few female prostitutes. Meanwhile, in Afghanistan women were prevented by law from feeling sunlight on their faces and the only guy who did anything about it was George W Bush. We have honor killings now not just in Jordan and Pakistan, but in Britain and Germany and Scandinavia. Where are the feminists on that? This is the biggest lever we have in the Muslim world — the fact that half their populations are chattels. They dont want to be navel-pierced Britneyized slatterns but a lot of them want something other. Thats a huge opportunity.

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Abstract. For full interview and source: http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=Y2U1NzUwNzcyMmMwZmVlNjkzZmRmNzg0Y2EwZmYz...

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[cll488]

Very brave chap ....... great book!

[cb44ever]

support israel support democracy dont let e win and check out the real faceof da gaza strip hamas and how disgusting their acts truly are and im talkin bout against their own they call people to get up on roofs of house that we tell them were going to hit and take out instead of getting out cause we are trying notto kill them and they get them on the roof and if ya heard that and didnt go they would kill you n call ya traitor if now go look for not propgeanda but simple videogo to memri osommin

[starinthehoodmuzz]

@KumarZimmerman08 Political correctness gone mad thats why . The muslims might aswell hand us a shovel to dig our own graves :(

[starinthehoodmuzz]

He is so right i wish the government would wake up and stop burying their heads in the sand . Its only a matter of time before this situation reaches boiling point then shits really going to hit the fan .

[watchful38]

@meechoman90 C.S. Lewis was the first to refer to Islam as a religion of "outrage". Churhill said slavery of women would only end when Islam disappeared. Lewis and Churchill were the True Prophets! Peace and Blessing be upon them!

[KumarZimmerman08]

Europeans and Western Civilization will go extinct. WHY WHY WHY are we allowing this to happen? How brainwashed can an entire race of people be that they welcome their own genocide?

[geomusicmove]

@jimmyjamesWang Well, but still, the conflict you mentioned, muslims vs non-muslims is the new East vs West. We always need a foe to keep everyone in check.

Anyway if it's about muslims vs non-muslims then it's 'muslims vs the rest of the world', seems a bit too much.

I'm white and western and proud of it, but don't need people with such a dubious intellect like Steyn to stand up for me, he's as backwards as the islamists he criticises

[jimmyjamesWang]

@geomusicmove, but sure she is non-muslim. lol. the world has changed so much, it use to be western vs non-western. Now it's muslim vs non-muslim.

[meechoman90]

"religion of perpetual outrage." the most perfect description I have heard so far from anybody. love it.