Fr. Barron comments on "Agora"

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[Cathmoytura]

I’ve watched “Agora” a couple times. Didn’t come off as propaganda against Christianity to me. The pagans started the bloodshed, stoked the violence and established the oppressive pattern for Alexandria. Fr. Barron: “Doesn’t (the director) realize that a movie like this is actually going to foment, could, foment violence against Christians.” That’s the kind of persecution complex among various sects of Christians that concerns me. Those who feel they’re defending themselves can get drastic.

[wordonfirevideo]

@Cathmoytura Agora didn't come across as anti-Christian propaganda?! You must have watched it with your eyes closed. And take a look sometime at the biography of the director: his anti-Catholicism is on clear display.

[BrynjaLives]

Stand your ground? unintellectual atheism? Setting the record straight? ..This guy is full of vile vomit. Christianity is synonymous with ignorance and violence. It pervades the USA today quite thoroughly. The bodies at Dachau? The ones the christian nazi army piled up? Its a perfect reflection. This movie is a clear look at christians and all they "stand their ground" for. If ANYBODY goes on a murderous rampage of hate..it will be the christians.

[wordonfirevideo]

@BrynjaLives Thanks for beautifully proving my point!

[captainwasabi13]

@matthelion You say, "we get our morals from society because different societies have different morals." If this is where morals come from, then it must be said that morality is what a society says is moral.

So, the question is, if what you say is true, who can say a society that kills people for ANY reason (e.g. not believing their god), is actually doing something immoral? They are doing exactly what their society lets them. You can say you don't like it, but you cannot say it is wrong.

[matthelion]

@captainwasabi13 You’ve confused me now. Can you rephrase the question?

[captainwasabi13]

@matthelion You are missing my point entirely. You are right to say that if justice and morals do not come from a god(s), then they come from societies. My POINT is, if a Christian SOCIETY thinks some small percentage of their population should die, be they murderers, adulterers, traitors, or simply people who think there is no God, why should someone who thinks justice COMES from a society (and not a god), say a society is doing something wrong by killing people who think just that.

[matthelion]

@captainwasabi13 An atheist doesn’t believe in god. That doesn’t mean that we don’t believe in anything. I believe in freedom, justice, and integrity. I believe in self reliance and empowerment.

I don’t want to try and define “Morality”. I think we get our morals from society because different societies have different morals.

Unless you follow every single rule in the bible, you aren’t getting your morals from that book.

[matthelion]

@captainwasabi13 Hey... I just read your comment. Are you trolling??? If not, where do you get your morality from?

[ravenfyhre]

Actually, as John Stott said in "Basic Christianity". Being a christian is not about believing, its a way of life.Which means, we can call ourselves christians, but we could probably not be one.As in the movie Agora, the "christians" seemed as if they were simply satisfying their ego, and forgot everything Jesus thought us. No one ever said becoming a christian was easy. Constantly fight our own ego is really hard.I believe the movie shows us just how easy is to be clouded by our own judgements.

[niinja2]

@krisluvs1

9 million pople

lol

pain did not have 9 million people

[captainwasabi13]

I find it humorous when atheists complain of Christians killing people who disagree with them... What are they appealing to? How is it wrong to kill someone else? If the universe is godless, there is only one thing that dictates what is morally right or wrong: POWER

Why shouldn't Christians murder everyone who disagrees with them if they had the power to do so? If there is no god, then their own moral teachings that all men are created in the image of God & will be judged by Him are inane.